Sale vs Tigers

[trendylfj]

Don't like the 5 - 2 split on the bench - would not have Tuilagi on the bench at all - look at what happened yesterday with the 5 - 2 split. Choice between Fitz, Wells and Evans as to who misses out and would have Hardwick on the bench if fit as well as Harrison again if fit

It was a 6-2 split. I think that it may be the last 23 standing who will be at Sale!

sorry - didn't spot the typo - ty but the main point is that we should have 3 backs on the bench not 2 and yes, JP14, I would leave Fitz out and have Wells and Evans on my bench

[JP14]

Think Cole will be in the England 23

On what basis when Sinckler and Williams were training with the squad last week

It’s the Italian game and Cole has played extremely well these last few games.

[Mark62]

Think Cole will be in the England 23

On what basis when Sinckler and Williams were training with the squad last week

It’s the Italian game and Cole has played extremely well these last few games.

So it’s a personal opinion nothing you’ve heard or Eddie Jones has said.
Surely if he was going to be playing he would have been in the trsquad against the Georgians

[AngusMcCoatup]

I know some posters have a soft spot for him but Freddie Tuilagi should not be anywhere near the premiership match day squad.

Any further news on Denton

Agreed but will Toomua be fit again? Is Varndell a flash in the pan? Is Brendon O'Connor fit again or homeward bound?
Tigers Injury Team (TITS!) Veainu, Thompstone, Charlie Thacker, Gareth Owen, Matt Smith; Sam Harrison, Ben White: Bateman, Jimmy Stevens, Ross McMillan; Brendon O'Connor, Mapapalangi, David Denton, ??, ??.

[Hot_Charlie]

I'd have Sam Aspland-Robinson ahead of Olowofela

and leave Worth at 15, let him make the position his own.

+1

I’ll be controversial. Personally I quite liked seeing Worth at 13!

[Mark62]

I'd have Sam Aspland-Robinson ahead of Olowofela

and leave Worth at 15, let him make the position his own.

+1

I’ll be controversial. Personally I quite liked seeing Worth at 13!

Me too

[johnthegriff]

I don't think Fred Tuilagi will be in the squad for Sale but why oh why does Mark 62 repeatedly dismiss Fred's very good performances in A league and Premier Cup in favour of an opinion formed about the player when he was still at school?
It is my belief that Murph did not want to field a bench of six forwards, circumstances late last week created a situation where there was no alternative.

[RagingBull]

I've been harsh on Fred, but his game v Saints was excellent, especially carrying wise. Looks to now carry through the opposition rather than stop.

I wouldn't mind seeing assuming no injury returns.
1. Gigena
2. Youngs
3. Cole
4. Spencer
5. Wells
6. Williams
7. Thompson
8. Kalamfoni
9. Holmes
10. Ford
11. Aspland-Robinson
12. Eastmond
13. Olowofela
14. Sarto
15. Worth

16. Kerr
17. Ma'afu
18. Heyes
19. Fitzgerald
20. Evans
21. Simmons/Law
22. Hardwick
23. Steward/

[BFG]

To be fair I think all of the back rows have had struggles because they rarely get to attack in the right areas.
They should be in the wider channels a bit more looking to find more mismatches and young Fred could be as useful as anyone in these areas in my opinion.
I thought the injuries against Wasps raised some interesting things, Evans having to fill in defensively at 10 for example, and how extra defensive cover and attacking surprises could similarly be utilised a bit more.

[Mark62]

I don't think Fred Tuilagi will be in the squad for Sale but why oh why does Mark 62 repeatedly dismiss Fred's very good performances in A league and Premier Cup in favour of an opinion formed about the player when he was still at school?
It is my belief that Murph did not want to field a bench of six forwards, circumstances late last week created a situation where there was no alternative.

For the very simple reason that other than the odd game where people have reported he has been good, at a lower level, I have seen nothing in his game as an adult to suggest he is ready to make the step up to the premiership.
One swallow doesn’t make a summer, and I go back to the fact that if he had a different surname people would be questioning why he was still in the squad or at least dual registered with a championship side.
This is just my opinion of course

[drc_007]

I've been harsh on Fred, but his game v Saints was excellent, especially carrying wise. Looks to now carry through the opposition rather than stop.

I wouldn't mind seeing assuming no injury returns.
1. Gigena
2. Youngs
3. Cole
4. Spencer
5. Wells
6. Williams
7. Thompson
8. Kalamfoni
9. Holmes
10. Ford
11. Aspland-Robinson
12. Eastmond
13. Olowofela
14. Sarto
15. Worth

16. Kerr
17. Ma'afu
18. Heyes
19. Fitzgerald
20. Evans
21. Simmons/Law
22. Hardwick
23. Steward/

Whilst it was fun watching Holmes at 9, I suspect Tigers would prefer to have a card carrying scrum-half there, so Simmons to start.

[Mark62]

As well as Holmes did, i think it would be a huge mistake to risk him at 9 providing Simmons is fit

[RagingBull]

I've been harsh on Fred, but his game v Saints was excellent, especially carrying wise. Looks to now carry through the opposition rather than stop.

I wouldn't mind seeing assuming no injury returns.
1. Gigena
2. Youngs
3. Cole
4. Spencer
5. Wells
6. Williams
7. Thompson
8. Kalamfoni
9. Holmes
10. Ford
11. Aspland-Robinson
12. Eastmond
13. Olowofela
14. Sarto
15. Worth

16. Kerr
17. Ma'afu
18. Heyes
19. Fitzgerald
20. Evans
21. Simmons/Law
22. Hardwick
23. Steward/

Whilst it was fun watching Holmes at 9, I suspect Tigers would prefer to have a card carrying scrum-half there, so Simmons to start.

IF simmons is fit being key.

[strawclearer]

Harry Simmons to start at 9 for me. Interesting to see that no-one is suggesting a change at 10. Has Joe Ford 'come of age' on this forum after his MotM performance vs Pests? Nobody advocating Hardwick against Sale?

[WhitecapTiger]

Harry Simmons to start at 9 for me. Interesting to see that no-one is suggesting a change at 10. Has Joe Ford 'come of age' on this forum after his MotM performance vs Pests? Nobody advocating Hardwick against Sale?

I think it's prudent to play Ford at Sale, he can interpret some of their NorthWest calls, always handy to have a native speaker to help disrupt.....

(Yes, I know they have a few Boks......)