What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by Coops » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:44 am

fortysix wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:28 pm
** Putting in to second row
I think it was the Scotland game on Saturday - Italy were pinged for not hooking at the scrum, then Scotland blatantly fed it to the flanker who hooked it!

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by Coops » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:47 am

ellis9 wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:26 am
After the awarding of a try, the referee stopping the kicker taking the conversion to check the try after watching the replay on the big screen.

You've made your decision, it's too late to change it now. As soon as the referee puts his arm up to say a try has been scored, he shouldn't be able to change the decision (unless the TMO tells him foul play has occurred).

If he wants to check if the try has been scored, he should signal that he's checking with the TMO and not put his arm up to award a try.
All matches would turn into the SuperBowl and be 4 hours long as the ref would check each and every try scored for fear of making a wrong decision.

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by mol2 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:36 am

The card lottery jumping for the ball. The Itoje penalty was a prime example.
Full back running jump to challenge for the ball - the lock in position to catch the ball but gets his back jumped into by the full back.

Players who jump forward to catch the ball are the problem. If both simply jump up the contest is safe.

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by BengalTiger » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:31 am

Not policing the offside line at the breakdown, this drives me mad, it spoils the game as a spectacle as it reduces the available space, it is what the touch judges used to do, you never see a touch judge waving his flag for offside anymore, now the whole defensive line creeps upoffside as if, as they are all doing it it is OK!

NB. why do touch judges carry flags now? they never use them, (OK pedants, assistant refs )

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by old one eye » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:38 am

Inconsistant reffing, and letting the crowd see the TMO “referrals /incidents” before the decision is made, therefore allowing the home supporters influence the outcome.
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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by Cardiff Tig » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:21 pm

mol2 wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:36 am
The card lottery jumping for the ball. The Itoje penalty was a prime example.
Full back running jump to challenge for the ball - the lock in position to catch the ball but gets his back jumped into by the full back.

Players who jump forward to catch the ball are the problem. If both simply jump up the contest is safe.
Itoje was nowhere near catching the ball!! He was about 3m past where it landed and took out Earls who actually had a chance of getting near to it.

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by Wayne Richardson Fan Club » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:36 pm

Cardiff Tig wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:21 pm
mol2 wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:36 am
The card lottery jumping for the ball. The Itoje penalty was a prime example.
Full back running jump to challenge for the ball - the lock in position to catch the ball but gets his back jumped into by the full back.

Players who jump forward to catch the ball are the problem. If both simply jump up the contest is safe.
Itoje was nowhere near catching the ball!! He was about 3m past where it landed and took out Earls who actually had a chance of getting near to it.
He should of got a card, worse than Currys, eventually the officials will catch onto to his various antics.
To win is not as important as playing with style!

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by Scott1 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:31 pm

Murray should have been penalised in that sequence of events for blocking!

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by Jimmy Skitz » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:18 pm

players that lower their head into contact, with the increased attention high tackles are correctly getting anyone who ducks into the tackle should receive the same sanction as the tackler

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by Dangerous4 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:00 pm

I completely loathe seeing players spitting on the grass. This applies to almost, if not all, field games.

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by wormus » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:52 pm

Scott1 wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:06 pm
Players begging for yellow cards! Best did it yesterday
I recall seeing a Utube of Wayne refereeing v New Zealand and one of their back row demanding a yellow card, so when Wayne finished with the incident he called the NZ player over and said "If you still want a card then you shall have one!"

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by wormus » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:26 pm

I agree with Pellsey's concerns and particularly on banning plastic pitches but here is my "Goat Heard!"
1) Ban all Neil Diamond's Sweet Carolines (or any other songs) being played during the match together with banning the home team pa from blasting out support for their team whilst under pressure.
## I recall Bath v Tigers @ Twickenham where we were 5 metre scrumming on the bath line and the pa blasting out "Come on Bath let us hear you!"
2)No music after a try or points score - particularly Twickenham.
3)Those in the stands who desire even more beer or a bladder download should only leave at a break in play and be held back by the Stewards until a break in play on returning.
4) Replacements / Finishers should be training / warming up behind THEIR own teams goal line and not the opposition. This will prevent the present circus of pitch invasion on scoring. Furthermore any Replacement / Finisher who enters the pitch to swarm a player should be yellow carded 10 minutes.
5) Respect on the field - penalise ungamely actions eg clapping a knock on, eeyy ors, sarcastic/nasty comments to the opposition.
6) Discourage 15 player pile ups once a score has been made, I am sure handshakes or pats on the back are sufficient!
7) Maximise Saturday 3pm kickoffs, there should be a maximum number of Friday /Sunday moves.
8) Remove persistently poor Referees from the Premiership.
9) If one emails or communicates to the Club then a response should be made asap and not ignored.
10) Improve the quality and range of the merchantise, improve the bar service by looking at how other Premiership Clubs can deliver.
11) Respect FOR the Season Ticket holders as they amongst others are paying your wages / bills.
12) Lack of TRUST - a) Teams selecting fit first team players in Development competitions - Trophies!
b) Teams that break the Salary cap by dishonesty.
Wow! that feels better :smt023 I await constructive comments too.
Edited item 11 as requested - "FOR" ie. the Club should respect the views of Season Ticket holders.
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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by ellis9 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:41 pm

wormus wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:26 pm
I agree with Pellsey's concerns and particularly on banning plastic pitches but here is my "Goat Heard!"
1) Ban all Neil Diamond's Sweet Carolines (or any other songs) being played during the match together with banning the home team pa from blasting out support for their team whilst under pressure.
## I recall Bath v Tigers @ Twickenham where we were 5 metre scrumming on the bath line and the pa blasting out "Come on Bath let us hear you!"
2)No music after a try or points score - particularly Twickenham.
3)Those in the stands who desire even more beer or a bladder download should only leave at a break in play and be held back by the Stewards until a break in play on returning.
4) Replacements / Finishers should be training / warming up behind THEIR own teams goal line and not the opposition. This will prevent the present circus of pitch invasion on scoring. Furthermore any Replacement / Finisher who enters the pitch to swarm a player should be yellow carded 10 minutes.
5) Respect on the field - penalise ungamely actions eg clapping a knock on, eeyy ors, sarcastic/nasty comments to the opposition.
6) Discourage 15 player pile ups once a score has been made, I am sure handshakes or pats on the back are sufficient!
7) Maximise Saturday 3pm kickoffs, there should be a maximum number of Friday /Sunday moves.
8) Remove persistently poor Referees from the Premiership.
9) If one emails or communicates to the Club then a response should be made asap and not ignored.
10) Improve the quality and range of the merchantise, improve the bar service by looking at how other Premiership Clubs can deliver.
11) Respect the Season Ticket holders as they amongst others are paying your wages / bills.
12) Lack of TRUST - a) Teams selecting fit first team players in Development competitions - Trophies!
b) Teams that break the Salary cap by dishonesty.
Wow! that feels better :smt023 I await constructive comments too.
Can you expand on point 11?

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by GETHIN EXILE » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:37 pm

when a player is carded for a "high tackle with significant force to the head/neck area" and the tackled player gets up and is not sent for a HIA, if there was significant force to the head then a HIA should be compulsory. The medical staff, referee and TMO should be sanctioned for failing in their duty of care if the player is not sent for the HIA.

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Re: What gets your goat in the rugby of today?

Post by voice of the crumbie » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:42 pm

GETHIN EXILE wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:37 pm
when a player is carded for a "high tackle with significant force to the head/neck area" and the tackled player gets up and is not sent for a HIA, if there was significant force to the head then a HIA should be compulsory. The medical staff, referee and TMO should be sanctioned for failing in their duty of care if the player is not sent for the HIA.
100% agree with this.
Tigers for the premiership and European Cup. Get behind the team and make some noise!!

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