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Ben youngs

Post by amazing tiger » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:32 pm

Youngs had a great game today pretty much controlled the game today and was an integral part of Englands victory today! And some people think Harrison should start every week πŸ˜‚

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Re: Ben youngs

Post by TigerMac3 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:42 pm

Am at a loss for words by now to describe how frustrated/angry/bemused I am in the difference between Ben Youngs A (the England version) and Ben Youngs B (the Leicester Tigers version)

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Re: Ben youngs

Post by Scott1 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:48 pm

Come on now,let's not spoil a fantastic win with a purposely provoking post!! England BY and Leicester BY are night and day and nobody has ever said differently!!!

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Re: Ben youngs

Post by TigerMac3 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:56 pm

I enjoy watching England, but it comes a distant second to watching Tigers, for me. A Tigers defeat on a Saturday hurts β€˜til the following Thursday! As such, the BY situation is like a red rag to a bull with me

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Re: Ben youngs

Post by Scott1 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:03 pm

Exactly opposite for me! To paraphrase Alan Hansen international rugby is king!!!

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Re: Ben youngs

Post by amazing tiger » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:16 pm

Scott1 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:48 pm
Come on now,let's not spoil a fantastic win with a purposely provoking post!! England BY and Leicester BY are night and day and nobody has ever said differently!!!
Sorry it's just too easy πŸ˜‚

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Re: Ben youngs

Post by DCATsOLDMAN » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:50 pm

One of the reasons why Lenny looks so good for England, and, to some, less so, for Tigers, may have something to do with the way England followed up his box kicks fast, and put pressure on the Irish. Jonny May was doing it the entire match, and it was causing havok with the opposition. For whatever reason, we just do not do that consistently.

Of the forwards, Will Evans and BOC are the best at it of the current crop, along with Jonny, Telusa and Thompstone, but it requires an advanced level of speed and fitness that I am not sure we have in abundance.

It is grossly unfair to blame Lenny, look to others as well.

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Re: Ben youngs

Post by WhitecapTiger » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:58 pm

DCATsOLDMAN wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:50 pm
One of the reasons why Lenny looks so good for England, and, to some, less so, for Tigers, may have something to do with the way England followed up his box kicks fast, and put pressure on the Irish. Jonny May was doing it the entire match, and it was causing havok with the opposition. For whatever reason, we just do not do that consistently.

Of the forwards, Will Evans and BOC are the best at it of the current crop, along with Jonny, Telusa and Thompstone, but it requires an advanced level of speed and fitness that I am not sure we have in abundance.

It is grossly unfair to blame Lenny, look to others as well.
The problem is, Jonny May plays for us too so his chasing today shouldn't be any different than his chasing for us - and I don't believe it is - the difference is Youngs' kicking, on the money today and easy for chasers to target yet when he box kicks for us it's quite often way too far, and never so accurate.
Scott1 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:48 pm
England BY and Leicester BY are night and day and nobody has ever said differently!!!
No they've not, but what they've wondered is just why is there such a disparity between his National and Club performances, there shouldn't be really. Can't put it down to coaching IMO.
Scott1 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:03 pm
To paraphrase Alan Hansen international rugby is king!!!
Not in my book, club before country for me.

Before it's mis-construed and twisted.... I get that for the players, playing for your country is the highest accolade and should be strived for but for me as a supporter - I put Tigers first every time.
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Re: Ben youngs

Post by TigerS2 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:14 pm

WhitecapTiger wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:58 pm
DCATsOLDMAN wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:50 pm
One of the reasons why Lenny looks so good for England, and, to some, less so, for Tigers, may have something to do with the way England followed up his box kicks fast, and put pressure on the Irish. Jonny May was doing it the entire match, and it was causing havok with the opposition. For whatever reason, we just do not do that consistently.

Of the forwards, Will Evans and BOC are the best at it of the current crop, along with Jonny, Telusa and Thompstone, but it requires an advanced level of speed and fitness that I am not sure we have in abundance.

It is grossly unfair to blame Lenny, look to others as well.
The problem is, Jonny May plays for us too so his chasing today shouldn't be any different than his chasing for us - and I don't believe it is - the difference is Youngs' kicking, on the money today and easy for chasers to target yet when he box kicks for us it's quite often way too far, and never so accurate.
Scott1 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:48 pm
England BY and Leicester BY are night and day and nobody has ever said differently!!!
No they've not, but what they've wondered is just why is there such a disparity between his National and Club performances, there shouldn't be really. Can't put it down to coaching IMO.
Scott1 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:03 pm
To paraphrase Alan Hansen international rugby is king!!!
Not in my book, club before country for me.
I agree, Club before country for me too, as I have invested so much money and passion in the Tigers, where as I have only invested passion for the England team.

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Re: Ben youngs

Post by LE18 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:20 pm

It was a superb performance all round. I thought Mako making 25 tackles for a prop was unbelievable. Forwards gave Ben front foot ball, much more so than Tigers can do. I think today was the 1st time Ben has outplayed Connor, very well done to all. :smt041

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Re: Ben youngs

Post by DCATsOLDMAN » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:22 pm

''never so accurate''.

Oh come on. How can you justify such a sweeping statement?

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Re: Ben youngs

Post by WhitecapTiger » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:32 pm

DCATsOLDMAN wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:22 pm
''never so accurate''.

Oh come on. How can you justify such a sweeping statement?
Nearly every one of his kicks were right where they needed to be tonight, those that were for chasing were obtainable (and were reached by chasers tonight) - I rarely see that achieved with the frequency of tonight in a Tigers shirt hence "Never so accurate".

I am a Ben Youngs supporter, don't want rid of him but this is an opinion I hold - I'm not alone, his kicking has been below par (his own international level - so we know he's capable of it) for us at club level.

Apologies for it being different to your view.
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Re: Ben youngs

Post by DCATsOLDMAN » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:16 am

WhitecapTiger wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:32 pm
DCATsOLDMAN wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:22 pm
''never so accurate''.

Oh come on. How can you justify such a sweeping statement?
Nearly every one of his kicks were right where they needed to be tonight, those that were for chasing were obtainable (and were reached by chasers tonight) - I rarely see that achieved with the frequency of tonight in a Tigers shirt hence "Never so accurate".

I am a Ben Youngs supporter, don't want rid of him but this is an opinion I hold - I'm not alone, his kicking has been below par (his own international level - so we know he's capable of it) for us at club level.

Apologies for it being different to your view.
What I object to is the word "never", and then in the same sentence as "rarely". It cannot be both!

If Lenny is playing so badly for Tigers, why is he being picked?

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Re: Ben youngs

Post by Wayne Richardson Fan Club » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:36 am

DCATsOLDMAN wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:16 am
WhitecapTiger wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:32 pm
DCATsOLDMAN wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:22 pm
''never so accurate''.

Oh come on. How can you justify such a sweeping statement?
Nearly every one of his kicks were right where they needed to be tonight, those that were for chasing were obtainable (and were reached by chasers tonight) - I rarely see that achieved with the frequency of tonight in a Tigers shirt hence "Never so accurate".

I am a Ben Youngs supporter, don't want rid of him but this is an opinion I hold - I'm not alone, his kicking has been below par (his own international level - so we know he's capable of it) for us at club level.

Apologies for it being different to your view.
What I object to is the word "never", and then in the same sentence as "rarely". It cannot be both!

If Lenny is playing so badly for Tigers, why is he being picked?
If you believe the "chatter" Lenny is one of the players who has been in charge of our boards coaching decisions.
He is our best 9, he just far to frequently fails to perform at the level he showed yesterday. Some of that is the players around him, the rest who knows....
What can be said is he looks so much better when he plays at a high tempo & doesn't slow the whole game down.
To me he always looks better when he has a dynamic 6 or 8 in the team, he was a better performer for Tigers with TTE @ 8.
To win is not as important as playing with style!

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Re: Ben youngs

Post by DCATsOLDMAN » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:43 am

Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:36 am
DCATsOLDMAN wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:16 am
WhitecapTiger wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:32 pm


Nearly every one of his kicks were right where they needed to be tonight, those that were for chasing were obtainable (and were reached by chasers tonight) - I rarely see that achieved with the frequency of tonight in a Tigers shirt hence "Never so accurate".

I am a Ben Youngs supporter, don't want rid of him but this is an opinion I hold - I'm not alone, his kicking has been below par (his own international level - so we know he's capable of it) for us at club level.

Apologies for it being different to your view.
What I object to is the word "never", and then in the same sentence as "rarely". It cannot be both!

If Lenny is playing so badly for Tigers, why is he being picked?
If you believe the "chatter" Lenny is one of the players who has been in charge of our boards coaching decisions.
He is our best 9, he just far to frequently fails to perform at the level he showed yesterday. Some of that is the players around him, the rest who knows....
What can be said is he looks so much better when he plays at a high tempo & doesn't slow the whole game down.
To me he always looks better when he has a dynamic 6 or 8 in the team, he was a better performer for Tigers with TTE @ 8.
I agree! :smt023

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