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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by Leicestertinytiger » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:31 pm

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Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:13 pm
Maybe I need to watch again 25 tackles for a prop is amazing which imho is the reason he got motm. Jonny May was England’s most influential player.
Wilson in my view is a Richard Hill type flanker and does a huge amount of unseen work allowing Curry and Vunipola to do the more visible stuff.

To call Nowell a primarily defensive player is wrong again in my view. He has very good feet is very strong and nearly always gets over the gain line. When fit him and May have to be our starting wingers.
Cokanasiga is a work in progress but could be influential late on so possibly on the bench instead of Ashton
I never said Nowell was primarily a defensive winger, I said he is our best winger at defense. The back three against Ireland is probably our most balanced, but never hurts to give some other players like Cokanasiga gametime, especially against the likes of Italy. Wouldn’t bench him as he can’t really cover 15 or centre.

Considering for ages one of England’s biggest weakness was at flanker, it’s nice to finally see us having some great competition for the backrow spots.

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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by Mark62 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:45 pm

Within that back line there is enough cover for all positions, for instance Nowell or May could move to 15.

Agree with the back row potentially our best options since Hill, Back Dayglo.
But as with those 3 the mix has to be right

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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by Scott1 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:10 pm

I do think though that we "lucked out" with injuries,Te'o and Shields both would've started if fit imo. I think Wilson is a far better all round player than Shields,he could become the new Richard Hill.

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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by Scuttle » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:13 pm

Scott1 wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:10 pm
I do think though that we "lucked out" with injuries,Te'o and Shields both would've started if fit imo. I think Wilson is a far better all round player than Shields,he could become the new Richard Hill.
:smt023 +1. Never seen what is so special about Shields certainly not to warrant a fast track not the squad with no club performances in UK to show his worth.
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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by northerntiger » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:21 pm

Scuttle wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:13 pm
Scott1 wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:10 pm
I do think though that we "lucked out" with injuries,Te'o and Shields both would've started if fit imo. I think Wilson is a far better all round player than Shields,he could become the new Richard Hill.
:smt023 +1. Never seen what is so special about Shields certainly not to warrant a fast track not the squad with no club performances in UK to show his worth.
Totally agree. Presume Eddie saw something in NZ, but he's not really set anything alight over here, and fast tracking him sends out all sorts of wrong messages

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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by Scott1 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:38 pm

Call me crazy but if Teo is fit I would seriously think about resting Manu so he's tiptop for the Wales game.

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Re: The Six Nations 2019

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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by Scuttle » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:55 pm

Dear Crazy

I did laugh when I saw Manu's "judo throw" which did actually sum up the match well.
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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by voice of the crumbie » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:00 pm

northerntiger wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:21 pm
Scuttle wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:13 pm
Scott1 wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:10 pm
I do think though that we "lucked out" with injuries,Te'o and Shields both would've started if fit imo. I think Wilson is a far better all round player than Shields,he could become the new Richard Hill.
:smt023 +1. Never seen what is so special about Shields certainly not to warrant a fast track not the squad with no club performances in UK to show his worth.
Totally agree. Presume Eddie saw something in NZ, but he's not really set anything alight over here, and fast tracking him sends out all sorts of wrong messages
Agree with all of this. Shields should be nowhere near the England Squad. Well down the back row pecking list as far as I'm concerned. Never been convinced by Teo either.
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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by strawclearer » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:07 am

A great article which shows how Eddie Jones won the tactical battle...

https://www.the42.ie/analysis-england-k ... =shortlink
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Post by Greenwhiteandred » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:33 am

Agree re Shields ... some of his defensive work for the Pests this year has been shocking which in any alternative reality would mean he was nowhere near the England squad. Go figure.
Teo is and always was a poor mans Manu a

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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by chewbacca » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:29 am

Love it. One of my gripes. Didn't look like Manu was bound so penalty to England for taking the man out. Happens all the time and refs do absolutely nothing every week.
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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by mol2 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:40 am

Scott1 wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:10 pm
I do think though that we "lucked out" with injuries,Te'o and Shields both would've started if fit imo. I think Wilson is a far better all round player than Shields,he could become the new Richard Hill.
Seen nothing from Shields to think he is an international - the more I see of Wilson the more impressed I am with his game.

As for picking Teo ahead of Manu. Even at inside centre a fit Manu is a country mile ahead.

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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by Scott1 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:41 am

He is for sure,I'm just thinking about managing Manus workload. Although he looks the fittest I've ever seen him.

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Re: The Six Nations 2019

Post by jgriffin » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:57 am

strawclearer wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:07 am
A great article which shows how Eddie Jones won the tactical battle...

https://www.the42.ie/analysis-england-k ... =shortlink
Absolutely excellent article, thanks for spotting it. :smt023
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