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Re: Dead rubber v Ulster

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If Harrison was fit,last season showed us we would arguably benefit in some ways. Not sure White and Toomua will click the same and there's also the Joe Ford size elephant in the room!
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Re: Dead rubber v Ulster

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LE18 wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:20 pm
johnthegriff wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:09 pm Ben Youngs is a fine scrum half and plays well for Leicester and England. He is unable to do anything with the ball for Leicester until the forwards give him quick clean possession, too often he had to hunt for the ball and gets it only after the opposition have strayed, somehow unseen into an offside position. Against Ulster Ben made a superb blindside break but no Leicester player went with him, neither the left winger nor more importantly a back row forward, he looked to pass but with no-one there the move came to nothing. Manu is blamed for passing straight into touch but I think he had a right to think that a winger or full back would be outside of him, most players are ok ball in hand, great players are still playing and working when they don't have the ball.
John, Manu did have a winger outside him, but he passed it forward, was the winger in front, or was it a poor pass, it was the wrong play in the circumstance, he should have poked it through and let winger run on, if not offside, but we all know, Manu cannot kick the ball?

Ben's break down the touch was not communicated, the scrum was too close to the touchline, he basically went the wrong way for any support to follow!
I thing what was meant was when Manu passed the ball into touch when he thought the winger was there rather than the long forward pass that led indirectly to their 2nd try.
Completely agree about his kicking but the rest of the side know that too so why put him in that situation.
Bens break he saw space because Olowefela had moved onto the open side hoping to take their winger with him. Break was a good option support was slow and maybe a little dab down the line after beating the first man a better call.
Ben Kay said on commentary that he is aware that the snipping runs have disappeared from his game
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Re: Dead rubber v Ulster

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Mark62 wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:34 pm
LE18 wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:20 pm
johnthegriff wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:09 pm Ben Youngs is a fine scrum half and plays well for Leicester and England. He is unable to do anything with the ball for Leicester until the forwards give him quick clean possession, too often he had to hunt for the ball and gets it only after the opposition have strayed, somehow unseen into an offside position. Against Ulster Ben made a superb blindside break but no Leicester player went with him, neither the left winger nor more importantly a back row forward, he looked to pass but with no-one there the move came to nothing. Manu is blamed for passing straight into touch but I think he had a right to think that a winger or full back would be outside of him, most players are ok ball in hand, great players are still playing and working when they don't have the ball.
John, Manu did have a winger outside him, but he passed it forward, was the winger in front, or was it a poor pass, it was the wrong play in the circumstance, he should have poked it through and let winger run on, if not offside, but we all know, Manu cannot kick the ball?

Ben's break down the touch was not communicated, the scrum was too close to the touchline, he basically went the wrong way for any support to follow!
I thing what was meant was when Manu passed the ball into touch when he thought the winger was there rather than the long forward pass that led indirectly to their 2nd try.
Completely agree about his kicking but the rest of the side know that too so why put him in that situation.
Bens break he saw space because Olowefela had moved onto the open side hoping to take their winger with him. Break was a good option support was slow and maybe a little dab down the line after beating the first man a better call.
Ben Kay said on commentary that he is aware that the snipping runs have disappeared from his game
Maybe I got wrong Manu pass, (was it their first try and started the panic), but Ben certainly seems as though he doesn't make as many breaks as he used to. Do you think hes put on a bit of weight? Robson made a superb break/try for Wasps and must be pushing Ben for the England starting spot.
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