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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by fortysix » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:05 pm

Agreed that Kay should NOT be on the Board and a pundit. There is no way on heavens earth he can criticize his fellow board members whilst Healey basically says the tommy opposite thereby giving the game away.

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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by Big Dai » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:56 pm

fortysix wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:05 pm
Agreed that Kay should NOT be on the Board and a pundit. There is no way on heavens earth he can criticize his fellow board members whilst Healey basically says the tommy opposite thereby giving the game away.
Nobody should commentate or provide punditry when they use "we" instead of the team name.
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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by ay2oh » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:08 pm

Big Dai wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:56 pm
fortysix wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:05 pm
Agreed that Kay should NOT be on the Board and a pundit. There is no way on heavens earth he can criticize his fellow board members whilst Healey basically says the tommy opposite thereby giving the game away.
Nobody should commentate or provide punditry when they use "we" instead of the team name.
Agree with previous comments that Ben Kays position on the board is untenable whilst his job as a pundit involves criticising Leicester Tigers
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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by johnthegriff » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:31 pm

Retired Rugby players have to earn a living and punditry is one way of doing it. Ben Kay is a non-executive board member of Tigers and there is no doubt that he has a fine line to walk when expressing his opinions regarding Tigers. Austin can say what he likes as we all know he officially has no inside information, Ben does and there must be times when he struggles with critical comment without being disloyal to a club he serves as a director and maybe has to limit speculation on confidentiality grounds or simply being viewed as interfering. However so far I don't think he has seriously breached the lines, we know all ex players favor their old team in commentary whilst they are doing well and are particularly hard on them when they fall below the standards that they think prevailed when the pundit was playing.

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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by ay2oh » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:44 pm

Disagree. I do not question Kay’s right to earn a living as a pundit just think that it is a conflict of interests with his place on the board
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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by Chobbsy » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:03 am

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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by ourla » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:00 pm

Leicester Tigers (v Gloucester Rugby, Welford Road, Saturday 3.00pm)

15 Jonah Holmes
14 Jonny May
13 Manu Tuilagi
12 Matt Toomua
11 Jordan Olowofela
10 George Ford (c)
9 Ben Youngs

1 Ellis Genge
2 Tatafu Polota-Nau
3 Dan Cole
4 Mike Fitzgerald
5 Graham Kitchener
6 Mike Williams
7 Will Evans
8 Sione Kalamafoni

Replacements

16 Jake Kerr
17 Greg Bateman
18 Joe Heyes
19 Harry Wells
20 Brendon O’Connor
21 Ben White
22 Kyle Eastmond
23 George Worth
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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by Scott1 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:01 pm

Very happy,strong bench!!!

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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by ourla » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:02 pm

Will Evans and Mike Williams return to the Leicester Tigers forward pack for Saturday’s home game against Gloucester Rugby in Round 12 of the Gallagher Premiership season. Head coach Geordan Murphy names Evans and Williams in the back row, with Mike Fitzgerald moving into the second row alongside Graham Kitchener.

There is also a change in the backline where Jordan Olowofela returns on the wing, with Jonah Holmes reverting to the full-back spot. Greg Bateman returns from injury to take his place among the replacements, and there is a place for Kyle Eastmond after serving a ban.
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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by TTRITH » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:10 pm

What does Wells need to do to start? He's the form lock, so he comes off the bench?!
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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by ourla » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:14 pm

Gloucester Rugby: 15 Tom Hudson, 14 Charlie Sharples, 13 Billy Twelvetrees, 12 Mark Atkinson, 11 Ollie Thorley, 10. Owen Williams, 9 Callum Braley; 1 Josh Hohneck, 2 Jaco Visagie, 3 Fraser Balmain, 4 Gerbrandt Grobler, 5 Franco Mostert, 6 Freddie Clarke, 7 Gareth Evans, 8 Ben Morgan (c)

Replacements: 16 Henry Walker, 17 Paddy McAllister, 18 Ciaran Knight, 19 Ed Slater, 20 Lewis Ludlow, 21 Ben Vellacott, 22 Henry Trinder, 23 Matt Banahan

Unavailable:
Ruan Ackermann, Danny Cipriani, Gareth Denman, Ruan Dreyer, Todd Gleave, James Hanson, Willi Heinz, Jaco Kriel, Franco Marais, Tom Marshall, Jake Polledri, Henry Purdy, Val Rapava Ruskin, Will Safe, Jason Woodward
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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by ourla » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:15 pm

If games were played on paper.....
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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by ellis9 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:20 pm

ourla wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:14 pm
Gloucester Rugby: 15 Tom Hudson, 14 Charlie Sharples, 13 Billy Twelvetrees, 12 Mark Atkinson, 11 Ollie Thorley, 10. Owen Williams, 9 Callum Braley; 1 Josh Hohneck, 2 Jaco Visagie, 3 Fraser Balmain, 4 Gerbrandt Grobler, 5 Franco Mostert, 6 Freddie Clarke, 7 Gareth Evans, 8 Ben Morgan (c)

Replacements: 16 Henry Walker, 17 Paddy McAllister, 18 Ciaran Knight, 19 Ed Slater, 20 Lewis Ludlow, 21 Ben Vellacott, 22 Henry Trinder, 23 Matt Banahan

Unavailable:
Ruan Ackermann, Danny Cipriani, Gareth Denman, Ruan Dreyer, Todd Gleave, James Hanson, Willi Heinz, Jaco Kriel, Franco Marais, Tom Marshall, Jake Polledri, Henry Purdy, Val Rapava Ruskin, Will Safe, Jason Woodward
Apart from Ben Morgan, I wouldn't swap one single Gloucester player for any Tigers players.

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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by JP14 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:28 pm

ellis9 wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:20 pm
ourla wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:14 pm
Gloucester Rugby: 15 Tom Hudson, 14 Charlie Sharples, 13 Billy Twelvetrees, 12 Mark Atkinson, 11 Ollie Thorley, 10. Owen Williams, 9 Callum Braley; 1 Josh Hohneck, 2 Jaco Visagie, 3 Fraser Balmain, 4 Gerbrandt Grobler, 5 Franco Mostert, 6 Freddie Clarke, 7 Gareth Evans, 8 Ben Morgan (c)

Replacements: 16 Henry Walker, 17 Paddy McAllister, 18 Ciaran Knight, 19 Ed Slater, 20 Lewis Ludlow, 21 Ben Vellacott, 22 Henry Trinder, 23 Matt Banahan

Unavailable:
Ruan Ackermann, Danny Cipriani, Gareth Denman, Ruan Dreyer, Todd Gleave, James Hanson, Willi Heinz, Jaco Kriel, Franco Marais, Tom Marshall, Jake Polledri, Henry Purdy, Val Rapava Ruskin, Will Safe, Jason Woodward
Apart from Ben Morgan, I wouldn't swap one single Gloucester player for any Tigers players.
I would take Twelvetrees, Williams, Slater and Balmain back in a heartbeat, and their second row is miles better than ours.
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Re: Gloucester 23

Post by ellis9 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:39 pm

JP14 wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:28 pm
ellis9 wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:20 pm
ourla wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:14 pm
Gloucester Rugby: 15 Tom Hudson, 14 Charlie Sharples, 13 Billy Twelvetrees, 12 Mark Atkinson, 11 Ollie Thorley, 10. Owen Williams, 9 Callum Braley; 1 Josh Hohneck, 2 Jaco Visagie, 3 Fraser Balmain, 4 Gerbrandt Grobler, 5 Franco Mostert, 6 Freddie Clarke, 7 Gareth Evans, 8 Ben Morgan (c)

Replacements: 16 Henry Walker, 17 Paddy McAllister, 18 Ciaran Knight, 19 Ed Slater, 20 Lewis Ludlow, 21 Ben Vellacott, 22 Henry Trinder, 23 Matt Banahan

Unavailable:
Ruan Ackermann, Danny Cipriani, Gareth Denman, Ruan Dreyer, Todd Gleave, James Hanson, Willi Heinz, Jaco Kriel, Franco Marais, Tom Marshall, Jake Polledri, Henry Purdy, Val Rapava Ruskin, Will Safe, Jason Woodward
Apart from Ben Morgan, I wouldn't swap one single Gloucester player for any Tigers players.
I would take Twelvetrees, Williams, Slater and Balmain back in a heartbeat, and their second row is miles better than ours.
Where did I say I wouldn't take them back?

I said I wouldn't swap them.

I wouldn't put Twelvetrees (playing 13) in our team instead of Manu.

I wouldn't pick Balmain ahead of Cole.

I wouldn't pick Hohneck ahead of Genge.

I wouldn't pick Williams ahead of Ford.

I wouldn't pick Braley ahead of Youngs.

I wouldn't pick Sharples ahead of May,

Etc etc etc

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