LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

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Here we go again.....
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BigDan50 wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:20 pm Waiting for a list of icons who coach elsewhere.
Off the top of my head I can think of 4 ex tigers who coach at the top level in the uk and Ireland. I’d only call one of those an icon though
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Oh good more let’s go back to how it used to be guff

The game has changed
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Yes to be fair so have Tigers in an attempt to stay fresh. Unfortunately it seems that not much has really changed, Saracens and Exeter are both built on tough uncompromising forwards and a conveyor belt of academy talent.

We seem to have thought forwards who do the grunt work effectively are redundant in the modern game
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fortysix wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:30 pm In the olden days, only the toughest signed for the Tigers, because they all knew what awaited them in training.

Somewhere along the line, that mantra disappeared----------and coincidentally , this was when the Tigers started freefalling.

So yes, it is possible some snowflakes wont sign for us, because, instead of being beaten up at Oval Park, they will get beaten up on the Forum
...and while Cockers was overloading and damaging players in training with this, other clubs were advancing their player skills and strategies leaving Tigers to fee fall into an outdated style of rugby. These 'snowflakes' as you refer to them seem to be doing a lot better than Tigers at the moment. I guarantee you Cockers doesn't implement that old culture at Edinburgh, he learnt his lesson in the past few seasons at Tigers.
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It could be that our position in the Table is one reason why we don't attract the best any more . Its one thing when you aspire to be the 'best Club side in the World' - its quite another when you have years of continual decline .
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DingDong wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:16 am
fortysix wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:30 pm In the olden days, only the toughest signed for the Tigers, because they all knew what awaited them in training.

Somewhere along the line, that mantra disappeared----------and coincidentally , this was when the Tigers started freefalling.

So yes, it is possible some snowflakes wont sign for us, because, instead of being beaten up at Oval Park, they will get beaten up on the Forum
...and while Cockers was overloading and damaging players in training with this, other clubs were advancing their player skills and strategies leaving Tigers to fee fall into an outdated style of rugby. These 'snowflakes' as you refer to them seem to be doing a lot better than Tigers at the moment. I guarantee you Cockers doesn't implement that old culture at Edinburgh, he learnt his lesson in the past few seasons at Tigers.
Precisely what Cockers imported to Edinburgh plus pride in their badge and heritage. apparently they weren't used to giving it some in training - and yes, I thought that still happened throughout rugby.
However do agree about the derogatory use of 'snowflake', a supposed insult popularised by a far right wing American writer (Palahniuk) as part of his violent and mildly homoerotic vision of masculinity.
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jgriffin wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:59 am
DingDong wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:16 am
fortysix wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:30 pm In the olden days, only the toughest signed for the Tigers, because they all knew what awaited them in training.

Somewhere along the line, that mantra disappeared----------and coincidentally , this was when the Tigers started freefalling.

So yes, it is possible some snowflakes wont sign for us, because, instead of being beaten up at Oval Park, they will get beaten up on the Forum
...and while Cockers was overloading and damaging players in training with this, other clubs were advancing their player skills and strategies leaving Tigers to fee fall into an outdated style of rugby. These 'snowflakes' as you refer to them seem to be doing a lot better than Tigers at the moment. I guarantee you Cockers doesn't implement that old culture at Edinburgh, he learnt his lesson in the past few seasons at Tigers.
Precisely what Cockers imported to Edinburgh plus pride in their badge and heritage. apparently they weren't used to giving it some in training - and yes, I thought that still happened throughout rugby.
However do agree about the derogatory use of 'snowflake', a supposed insult popularised by a far right wing American writer (Palahniuk) as part of his violent and mildly homoerotic vision of masculinity.
Any chance of getting back on the subject of the thread.... Anyone would think its a bunch of school kids on here
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If Launchbury is indeed considering a move from Wasps then he's the sort of player Tigers should throw everything at getting.

Fitting a signing such as Launchbury under the cap will always be a challenge but if Williams, Fitz, Kitch and BOC are all on the move then there's a lot of cap space being freed up.

Toomua's marquee could then be aimed at a blindside or number 8 as well.
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ABClub wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:29 pm If Launchbury is indeed considering a move from Wasps then he's the sort of player Tigers should throw everything at getting.

Fitting a signing such as Launchbury under the cap will always be a challenge but if Williams, Fitz, Kitch and BOC are all on the move then there's a lot of cap space being freed up.

Toomua's marquee could then be aimed at a blindside or number 8 as well.
Itoje new contract rumoured to be in the region of £700k a year plus would Launchbury be looking at the same sort of money
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Mark62 wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:04 pm
ABClub wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:29 pm If Launchbury is indeed considering a move from Wasps then he's the sort of player Tigers should throw everything at getting.

Fitting a signing such as Launchbury under the cap will always be a challenge but if Williams, Fitz, Kitch and BOC are all on the move then there's a lot of cap space being freed up.

Toomua's marquee could then be aimed at a blindside or number 8 as well.
Itoje new contract rumoured to be in the region of £700k a year plus would Launchbury be looking at the same sort of money
I'd heard lower than that for Itoje, around £500k. Which I know is still huge money! I get the impression figures reported are being exaggerated due to his high earnings from endorsements. An area that Itoje does very well in given he's an immensely popular player with younger fans.

Launchbury is on £270k at Wasps currently and has reportedly been offered around £500k by Sale.
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ABClub wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:29 pm If Launchbury is indeed considering a move from Wasps then he's the sort of player Tigers should throw everything at getting.

Fitting a signing such as Launchbury under the cap will always be a challenge but if Williams, Fitz, Kitch and BOC are all on the move then there's a lot of cap space being freed up.

Toomua's marquee could then be aimed at a blindside or number 8 as well.
Getting rid of 4 players and replacing them with 1 isn't the smartest of moves.
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Launchbury would be a huge huge signing, but...

It would be another international, on mega £ that would miss chunks of the season. Given how the current squad shapes up when the internationals disappear, not sure it’s really what we’re after
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ellis9 wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:02 pm
ABClub wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:29 pm If Launchbury is indeed considering a move from Wasps then he's the sort of player Tigers should throw everything at getting.

Fitting a signing such as Launchbury under the cap will always be a challenge but if Williams, Fitz, Kitch and BOC are all on the move then there's a lot of cap space being freed up.

Toomua's marquee could then be aimed at a blindside or number 8 as well.
Getting rid of 4 players and replacing them with 1 isn't the smartest of moves.
Clearly not what was suggested.

For the sake reasoning:

Williams, Fitzgerald, Kitchener, O'Connor, Mapapalangi and Fred T - That would be 6 forwards gone from the cap.

Williams, Fitz, Kitch and O'Connor ----> Launchbury, Green and squad signing in the back row
Mapapalangi and Fred T ---> Promote Lewis and Reffell
Toomua ---> Use marquee spot for a back rower or versatile lock such as Pieter Steph du Toit who can cover 6

That would be 6 forwards who are currently under the cap out, 5 forwards brought in under the cap to replace them and a marquee signing.

In the hypothetical that's 6 forwards in and 6 forwards out but in my opinion would see a huge improvement in the squad.
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Maro Itojes deal at Sarries is £800K+. Nothing less.
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