Gloucester vs Tigers

Forum to discuss everything that is Tigers related

Moderators: Rizzo, Tigerbeat, Tigers Press Office, Tigers Webmaster

Post Reply
BG01
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 214
Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:19 pm
Location: Leicester

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by BG01 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:14 pm

drc_007 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:01 pm
Surprised no Will Evans on the bench, if Guy Thompson gets injured who plays at open side?
Surely Mike Williams - who has started there for us multiple times and was considered there for England?
Never believe generalisations

JP14
Super User
Super User
Posts: 4246
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:37 am
Location: Neverland

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by JP14 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:30 pm

Should be a good game, looking forward to it regardless of the potential result.
"Our Greatest Glory Is Not In Never Failing, But In Rising Every Time We Fall" Confucius

BFG
Super User
Super User
Posts: 2538
Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:19 pm

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by BFG » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:57 pm

Scuttle wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:44 pm
Last week I thought Gloucester were pretty unimpressive against Saints, especially considering they seemed to have a relatively stronger team (more first picks) than Saints had out. The only one who really impressed was Ackerman who isn't playing tomorrow. It is 15 v 15 and if we get it together we have a chance. Who would have predicted a one point difference in the All Black's game?
I actually predicted an England win, well at least I had a very small amount of money on them so I think that counts, but I agree it's 15 v 15, one poor tackle and it's 14 v 15, one poor ref and it's 16 v 15 mind... :smt025
I'd be more confident of the Glaws bottle emptying were Slater not about!

Soggypitch
Gold Member
Gold Member
Posts: 1979
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:18 pm
Location: Market Harborough

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by Soggypitch » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:04 pm

Our pack looks good, our backs average at best. Distinct weaknesses at 9, 10 and 15 IMO.

So we have to win the forward battle and get the ball out to Eastmond/Owen, then there might just be a glimmer, but I'm not betting any money on it!!
Soggypitch

jgriffin
Super User
Super User
Posts: 6720
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:49 pm
Location: On the edge of oblivion

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by jgriffin » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:02 pm

Soggypitch wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:04 pm
Our pack looks good, our backs average at best. Distinct weaknesses at 9, 10 and 15 IMO.

So we have to win the forward battle and get the ball out to Eastmond/Owen, then there might just be a glimmer, but I'm not betting any money on it!!
Think we might get blitzed and end up too far behind. :smt009
Leicester Tigers 1995-
Nottingham 1995-2000
Swansea (Whites) 1988-95
A game played on grass in the open air by teams of XV.

Ian Cant
Gold Member
Gold Member
Posts: 759
Joined: Sun May 08, 2005 10:51 am

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by Ian Cant » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:18 pm

On a positive note: none of the backs are first choice ( though Thomo is one of my favourite Tigers who never lets us down) so if tomorrow’s team perform well it will be a huge bonus. Not many teams this week end with have their first choice 15, 14,12,13, 10 And 9 missing!
Come on TIGERS.

westwinds31
Super User
Super User
Posts: 4361
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:26 am

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by westwinds31 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:20 pm

The shed web faithful trying desperately to convince themselves that they’re missing lots of players. Glos backline is at full strength, with only Marshall missing (always injured) - Trinder maybe but he’s on the bench. Forwards...only Ackerman, Polledri and Ludlow missing but that’s not necessarily their starters. Everyone else is starting or on the bench. Is it me or does this fixture always seem to fall in November !!? It would be nice to have a full strength side going to these games.

ellis9
Super User
Super User
Posts: 4187
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:44 pm
Location: Birmingham

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by ellis9 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:44 pm

If there's ever a time for us to play the way we used to, tomorrow is it!

If we can make it a forwards orientated game, we will win. Our forwards are better than theirs. Use them to punish Gloucester at scrum time, get the penalties, kick the 3 points every time it's in a position that's kickable and when not, kick for the corner, win the lineout and power over the line.

sam16111986
Super User
Super User
Posts: 3398
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:27 pm
Location: Shepshed

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by sam16111986 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:06 pm

BG01 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:14 pm
drc_007 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:01 pm
Surprised no Will Evans on the bench, if Guy Thompson gets injured who plays at open side?
Surely Mike Williams - who has started there for us multiple times and was considered there for England?
I think he was considered at 6 for England as an alternative to Haskell. Robshaw playing at 7 in a time where Eddie was bemoaning England's lack of a natural openside.

We suffered greatly last season and in Cockers tenure when we filled the backrow with size instead of skill. Gloucester won't be bullied physically but can be targeted at the breakdown. Asking Thompson to put in a massive 80 minutes with no other backrow option offering much at the breakdown. If Thompson goes off a backrow of Fitzgerald, Williams and Kalamafoni will be taken to the cleaners. The only comfort is that Gloucester are short of their preferred breakdown specialists.

ourla
Super User
Super User
Posts: 2999
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:03 pm

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by ourla » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:37 am

ellis9 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:44 pm
If there's ever a time for us to play the way we used to, tomorrow is it!

If we can make it a forwards orientated game, we will win. Our forwards are better than theirs. Use them to punish Gloucester at scrum time, get the penalties, kick the 3 points every time it's in a position that's kickable and when not, kick for the corner, win the lineout and power over the line.
I doubt our forwards are they much better that they negate our much bigger deficit in the backs. Apart from anything else our kicker won't be able to slot anything less than straightforward. We'll do well to pull this one out the bag.
You're either in or you're out

ellis9
Super User
Super User
Posts: 4187
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:44 pm
Location: Birmingham

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by ellis9 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:10 am

ourla wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:37 am
ellis9 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:44 pm
If there's ever a time for us to play the way we used to, tomorrow is it!

If we can make it a forwards orientated game, we will win. Our forwards are better than theirs. Use them to punish Gloucester at scrum time, get the penalties, kick the 3 points every time it's in a position that's kickable and when not, kick for the corner, win the lineout and power over the line.
I doubt our forwards are they much better that they negate our much bigger deficit in the backs. Apart from anything else our kicker won't be able to slot anything less than straightforward. We'll do well to pull this one out the bag.
Individually and as a pack, our forwards are better. Yes, they clearly have a better backline than ours tonight which is why we must play a forward dominated game. We do that and we win.

CitizenSmiff
Gold Member
Gold Member
Posts: 1118
Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:53 am

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by CitizenSmiff » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:29 pm

Heinz/Cips vs White/Ford isn't even fair, underlining the absurdity of being asked to play important league games during the internationals. Hold on tight to the ball and hope for lots of scrums I suppose, otherwise we're going to get absolutely murdered.

ourla
Super User
Super User
Posts: 2999
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:03 pm

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by ourla » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:19 pm

CitizenSmiff wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:29 pm
Heinz/Cips vs White/Ford isn't even fair
It could have easily have been that Cips and Ford were flipped to be fair.
You're either in or you're out

ourla
Super User
Super User
Posts: 2999
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:03 pm

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by ourla » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:22 pm

Some analysis by Fat Boy on the unoffy:

Here are the results for the regular league matches between us and Gloucester at the shed in every season we won the premiership - with Gloucester's position in the regular league in brackets as indication of their form. Starred games played during an international window.

1998-1999: Gloucester 18 – 23 Tigers (10th)
1999-2000: Gloucester 34 – 6 Tigers (3rd)
2000-2001: Gloucester 22 – 13 Tigers (7th)
2001-2002: Gloucester 18 – 40 Tigers (3rd)
2006-2007: Gloucester 28 – 24 Tigers* (1st)
2008-2009: Gloucester 8 – 20 Tigers (6th)
2009-2010: Gloucester 12 – 9 Tigers* (7th)
2012-2013: Gloucester 27 – 21 Tigers (5th)

5 losses, 3 wins

His argument being that winning at Gloucester is no barometer to our overall season.

I might dig out the rest of the series later.
You're either in or you're out

Granby
Silver Member
Silver Member
Posts: 659
Joined: Thu May 14, 2009 9:51 am

Re: Gloucester vs Tigers

Post by Granby » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:23 pm

ellis9 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:44 pm
.........kick for the corner, win the lineout and power over the line.
Not sure if serious?

2 problems:-
a) our lineout is carp
b) our driving maul is even carper :smt017

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests