Rolling and crawling

[MelChannerFan]

At the weekend I noticed a lot of players rolling and crawling forwards after being tackled. Surely if someone is held when they are on the ground, they should release the ball and get to their feet before playing it again.
I don't think this is being enforced properly.

[TigerCam]

Rugby Law14 Tackle.

"For a tackle to occur, the ball-carrier is held and brought to ground by one or more opponents.

Being brought to ground means that the ball-carrier is lying, sitting or has at least one knee on the ground or on another player who is on the ground.

Being held means that a tackler must continue holding the ball-carrier until the ball-carrier is on the ground."

So, from what I have seen so far this season, the tackle law is not really being enforced as players are being allowed to continue to move forward or allowed to play the ball while on the ground. Why should this be any different to crooked feeds etc etc?

[WhitecapTiger]

So, from what I have seen so far this season, the tackle law is not really being enforced as players are being allowed to continue to move forward or allowed to play the ball while on the ground.

Game management.....keep the spectacle flowing, Laws/Rules don't matter, only a percentage know/care about them

Why should this be any different to crooked feeds etc etc?

It's not, they're ignored too....but I think that's your point

[mightymouse]

the complete nonsense is that as soon as the tackler starts to hold on to ensure they are tackled and stop them rolling and rcrawling about is the referee pings them for holding on. This is the consequence of ever allowing the tackled player to handle on the ground. The day they go back to the law meaning both players release the ball as soon as thy hit the floor and then only allowing the ball to be played with the feet thereafter will be the day rugby goes back to common sense and will improve immediately

[chewbacca]

the complete nonsense is that as soon as the tackler starts to hold on to ensure they are tackled and stop them rolling and rcrawling about is the referee pings them for holding on. This is the consequence of ever allowing the tackled player to handle on the ground. The day they go back to the law meaning both players release the ball as soon as thy hit the floor and then only allowing the ball to be played with the feet thereafter will be the day rugby goes back to common sense and will improve immediately

+1 Not sure I'd go as far as stacks of leather discs nailed onto the sole for studs though.

[mol2]

the complete nonsense is that as soon as the tackler starts to hold on to ensure they are tackled and stop them rolling and rcrawling about is the referee pings them for holding on. This is the consequence of ever allowing the tackled player to handle on the ground. The day they go back to the law meaning both players release the ball as soon as thy hit the floor and then only allowing the ball to be played with the feet thereafter will be the day rugby goes back to common sense and will improve immediately

Spot on.

If the aim is quick ball we have to have both the tackled player and the ball released immediately so that the attacking move can continue or the defending side can compete for the ball.

[jgriffin]

the complete nonsense is that as soon as the tackler starts to hold on to ensure they are tackled and stop them rolling and rcrawling about is the referee pings them for holding on. This is the consequence of ever allowing the tackled player to handle on the ground. The day they go back to the law meaning both players release the ball as soon as thy hit the floor and then only allowing the ball to be played with the feet thereafter will be the day rugby goes back to common sense and will improve immediately

and one of the worst blots on the game - the 'breakdown' - with attendant dives and shoulder barges would be removed. Also teams would have to commit more players or be super efficient, opening up the field.

[voice of the crumbie]

the complete nonsense is that as soon as the tackler starts to hold on to ensure they are tackled and stop them rolling and rcrawling about is the referee pings them for holding on. This is the consequence of ever allowing the tackled player to handle on the ground. The day they go back to the law meaning both players release the ball as soon as thy hit the floor and then only allowing the ball to be played with the feet thereafter will be the day rugby goes back to common sense and will improve immediately

and one of the worst blots on the game - the 'breakdown' - with attendant dives and shoulder barges would be removed. Also teams would have to commit more players or be super efficient, opening up the field.

I agree with you both. Unfortunately can't see it happening.

[jgriffin]

Nope.