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Rolling and crawling

Post by MelChannerFan » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:45 pm

At the weekend I noticed a lot of players rolling and crawling forwards after being tackled. Surely if someone is held when they are on the ground, they should release the ball and get to their feet before playing it again.
I don't think this is being enforced properly.

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Re: Rolling and crawling

Post by TigerCam » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:27 pm

Rugby Law14 Tackle.

"For a tackle to occur, the ball-carrier is held and brought to ground by one or more opponents.

Being brought to ground means that the ball-carrier is lying, sitting or has at least one knee on the ground or on another player who is on the ground.

Being held means that a tackler must continue holding the ball-carrier until the ball-carrier is on the ground."

So, from what I have seen so far this season, the tackle law is not really being enforced as players are being allowed to continue to move forward or allowed to play the ball while on the ground. Why should this be any different to crooked feeds etc etc?

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Re: Rolling and crawling

Post by WhitecapTiger » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:34 pm

TigerCam wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:27 pm
So, from what I have seen so far this season, the tackle law is not really being enforced as players are being allowed to continue to move forward or allowed to play the ball while on the ground.
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TigerCam wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:27 pm
Why should this be any different to crooked feeds etc etc?
It's not, they're ignored too....but I think that's your point :smt023
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Re: Rolling and crawling

Post by mightymouse » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:22 pm

the complete nonsense is that as soon as the tackler starts to hold on to ensure they are tackled and stop them rolling and rcrawling about is the referee pings them for holding on. This is the consequence of ever allowing the tackled player to handle on the ground. The day they go back to the law meaning both players release the ball as soon as thy hit the floor and then only allowing the ball to be played with the feet thereafter will be the day rugby goes back to common sense and will improve immediately

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Re: Rolling and crawling

Post by chewbacca » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:02 pm

mightymouse wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:22 pm
the complete nonsense is that as soon as the tackler starts to hold on to ensure they are tackled and stop them rolling and rcrawling about is the referee pings them for holding on. This is the consequence of ever allowing the tackled player to handle on the ground. The day they go back to the law meaning both players release the ball as soon as thy hit the floor and then only allowing the ball to be played with the feet thereafter will be the day rugby goes back to common sense and will improve immediately
+1 Not sure I'd go as far as stacks of leather discs nailed onto the sole for studs though.
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Re: Rolling and crawling

Post by mol2 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:00 pm

mightymouse wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:22 pm
the complete nonsense is that as soon as the tackler starts to hold on to ensure they are tackled and stop them rolling and rcrawling about is the referee pings them for holding on. This is the consequence of ever allowing the tackled player to handle on the ground. The day they go back to the law meaning both players release the ball as soon as thy hit the floor and then only allowing the ball to be played with the feet thereafter will be the day rugby goes back to common sense and will improve immediately
Spot on.

If the aim is quick ball we have to have both the tackled player and the ball released immediately so that the attacking move can continue or the defending side can compete for the ball.

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Re: Rolling and crawling

Post by jgriffin » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:03 pm

mightymouse wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:22 pm
the complete nonsense is that as soon as the tackler starts to hold on to ensure they are tackled and stop them rolling and rcrawling about is the referee pings them for holding on. This is the consequence of ever allowing the tackled player to handle on the ground. The day they go back to the law meaning both players release the ball as soon as thy hit the floor and then only allowing the ball to be played with the feet thereafter will be the day rugby goes back to common sense and will improve immediately
and one of the worst blots on the game - the 'breakdown' - with attendant dives and shoulder barges would be removed. Also teams would have to commit more players or be super efficient, opening up the field.
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Re: Rolling and crawling

Post by voice of the crumbie » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:29 pm

jgriffin wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:03 pm
mightymouse wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:22 pm
the complete nonsense is that as soon as the tackler starts to hold on to ensure they are tackled and stop them rolling and rcrawling about is the referee pings them for holding on. This is the consequence of ever allowing the tackled player to handle on the ground. The day they go back to the law meaning both players release the ball as soon as thy hit the floor and then only allowing the ball to be played with the feet thereafter will be the day rugby goes back to common sense and will improve immediately
and one of the worst blots on the game - the 'breakdown' - with attendant dives and shoulder barges would be removed. Also teams would have to commit more players or be super efficient, opening up the field.
I agree with you both. Unfortunately can't see it happening.
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Re: Rolling and crawling

Post by jgriffin » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:44 am

Nope. :smt009
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