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Re: Autumn Internationals

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Leicestertinytiger wrote: Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:06 pm So what do people reckon England’s injury free 23 is now? I’d go for:

Vunipola Hartley Sinckler
Itoje Kruis
Shields Underhill
Vunipola
Youngs Farrell
Te’o Joseph
Daly May
Watson

George, Genge, Cole, Lawes, Wilson, Robson, Ford, Tuilagi
Not bad Ltt, but I'd much rather have Wilson in my starting XV.
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Didn't think I'd ever say this but I'd definitely have Mike Brown at least in the squad. For all his silky skills, clever lines and tactical kicking, Elliot Daly is pretty poor under the high ball which is a non-negotiable at international level. I'd say the same about Anthony Watson.

If Daly is at 15 when England line up in Dublin then I hope his catching will have somehow improved markedly or Ireland will have a field day. I'd like to think Jones might have more sense than to start a less than solid FB against the side with the best aerial game in the world but he did it last year and Watson got ruined by Ireland. For that reason, I'd most definitely have Brown as an option. He may lack in other areas but he's generally rock-solid under the high ball.

Of course EJ could solve both problems and just pick the best English full back there is but for some reason best known to him he won't pick the super-consistent Alex Goode.
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Careful not to spill any Irn Bru biffer but...https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/n ... zen-tackle
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Leicestertinytiger wrote: Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:06 pm So what do people reckon England’s injury free 23 is now? I’d go for:

Vunipola Hartley Sinckler
Itoje Kruis
Shields Underhill
Vunipola
Youngs Farrell
Te’o Joseph
Daly May
Watson

George, Genge, Cole, Lawes, Wilson, Robson, Ford, Tuilagi
I’d probably go something like
Vunipola George Sinckler
Itoje Launchbury
Wilson Underhill
Vunipola
Youngs Farrell
Te’o Daly
Cokanasiga May
Goode

Hartley Genge Moon, Lawes, Simmons, Robson, Cipriani, Tuilagi
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POSTIGER wrote: Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:48 pm Didn't think I'd ever say this but I'd definitely have Mike Brown at least in the squad. For all his silky skills, clever lines and tactical kicking, Elliot Daly is pretty poor under the high ball which is a non-negotiable at international level. I'd say the same about Anthony Watson.

If Daly is at 15 when England line up in Dublin then I hope his catching will have somehow improved markedly or Ireland will have a field day. I'd like to think Jones might have more sense than to start a less than solid FB against the side with the best aerial game in the world but he did it last year and Watson got ruined by Ireland. For that reason, I'd most definitely have Brown as an option. He may lack in other areas but he's generally rock-solid under the high ball.

Of course EJ could solve both problems and just pick the best English full back there is but for some reason best known to him he won't pick the super-consistent Alex Goode.
Was thinking for the six nations if I were Jones to play Brown in the two away games at fullback to deal with the bombardment of high balls. We’ll need a rock at the back. Daly or Watson to play in the home games for a more attacking back three. Also would be good rotation for the World Cup.
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Stephen18 wrote: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:48 pm
Leicestertinytiger wrote: Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:06 pm So what do people reckon England’s injury free 23 is now? I’d go for:

Vunipola Hartley Sinckler
Itoje Kruis
Shields Underhill
Vunipola
Youngs Farrell
Te’o Joseph
Daly May
Watson

George, Genge, Cole, Lawes, Wilson, Robson, Ford, Tuilagi
I’d probably go something like
Vunipola George Sinckler
Itoje Launchbury
Wilson Underhill
Vunipola
Youngs Farrell
Te’o Daly
Cokanasiga May
Goode

Hartley Genge Moon, Lawes, Simmons, Robson, Cipriani, Tuilagi
You’ve named two looseheads on the bench there Stephen.
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My choice, or what I think Eddie will pick?

I'd go with

15. Alex Goode
14. Joe Cokanasiga
13. Elliott Daly
12. Owen Farrell
11. Jonny May
10. Danny Cipriani
9. Dan Robson
1. Ben Moon
2. Jamie George
3. Kyle Sinckler
4. Joe Launchbury
5. Maro Itoje
6. Michael Rhodes
7. Sam Underhill
8. Mark Wilson

16. Dylan Hartley
17. Mako Vunipola
18. Harry Williams
19. George Kruis
20. Billy Vunipola
21. Ben Youngs
22. George Ford
23. Manu Tuilagi

Both impact and control to come off the bench. Yes, Manu can only cover 13, but if he had to come on for anyone between 11 and 15, it would not be hard to re-jig the back line.

That being said, I think Eddie will probably go with

15. Elliott Daly
14. Joe Cokanasiga
13. Manu Tuilagi
12. Ben Te'o
11. Jonny May
10. Owen Farrell
9. Ben Youngs
1. Mako Vunipola
2. Jamie George
3. Kyle Sinckler
4. Joe Launchbury
5. George Kruis
6. Maro Itoje
7. Brad Shields
8. Billy Vunipola

16. Dylan Hartley
17. Ben Wood
18. Harry Williams
19. Courtney Lawes
20. Sam Underhill
21. Richard Wigglesworth
22. George Ford
23. Anthony Watson
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BFG wrote: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:15 pm Careful not to spill any Irn Bru biffer but...https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/n ... zen-tackle
Sir is always right! :smt005
Just backs up my point that Farrell is going to do something like that and get penalised for it at a critical point in the future.

Here's hoping it's in the World Cup, that'd be funny.
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