Autumn Internationals
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After reviewing it, Sir called it a big collision.
The ‘what ifs’ about potentially losing us the game are irrelevant; it was a brilliant, legal, shoulder to chest hit - with enough movement from the hands to suggest there was an attempted wrap.
Same people moaning about the hit are the same people who are moaning about the game going soft
The ‘what ifs’ about potentially losing us the game are irrelevant; it was a brilliant, legal, shoulder to chest hit - with enough movement from the hands to suggest there was an attempted wrap.
Same people moaning about the hit are the same people who are moaning about the game going soft
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Or Welsh.TigerLT wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:13 pm After reviewing it, Sir called it a big collision.
The ‘what ifs’ about potentially losing us the game are irrelevant; it was a brilliant, legal, shoulder to chest hit - with enough movement from the hands to suggest there was an attempted wrap.
Same people moaning about the hit are the same people who are moaning about the game going soft
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Oh Maro Otoge
Am I correct in thinking Mr Jones is planning not to include Maro in a weakened England team?
I am convinced the All Blacks have not forgiven his contribution to the Lions.
Mr Jones may indeed have read The Sydney Morning Herald on the All Blacks
He has brought alternative height and weight into the squad.
Being old enough to have listened to Cliff Morgan's commentary from Canterbury about Sandy Carmichael, watched the Llanelli victory live and the team memories on S4C, Tana Umaga tackling BOD and Melamu greeting Lewis Moody I think there is a case for Maro to avoid injury on Saturday.
Am I correct in thinking Mr Jones is planning not to include Maro in a weakened England team?
I am convinced the All Blacks have not forgiven his contribution to the Lions.
Mr Jones may indeed have read The Sydney Morning Herald on the All Blacks
He has brought alternative height and weight into the squad.
Being old enough to have listened to Cliff Morgan's commentary from Canterbury about Sandy Carmichael, watched the Llanelli victory live and the team memories on S4C, Tana Umaga tackling BOD and Melamu greeting Lewis Moody I think there is a case for Maro to avoid injury on Saturday.
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My conclusion. But dare not speak it lest it offend she who dished out viewing privelliges!jgriffin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:20 pmOr Welsh.TigerLT wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:13 pm After reviewing it, Sir called it a big collision.
The ‘what ifs’ about potentially losing us the game are irrelevant; it was a brilliant, legal, shoulder to chest hit - with enough movement from the hands to suggest there was an attempted wrap.
Same people moaning about the hit are the same people who are moaning about the game going soft
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There’s also an exacerbating factor with the technique he actually used. He tucked his right arm in - that’s not a position you attempt to wrap from, it’s a deliberate technique to increase the force through the shoulder, i.e. in crease the hit.ellis9 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:11 pmWhere Farrell was on the pitch, he could have rolled back. He was nowhere near the try line. The technique for when you're just in front of the try line is to wrap around, so the ball is lodged between the tackler and the opponents chest and fall backwards.
Are you asking or telling me that's not a successful technique? You ended the sentence with a question mark.
They are the techniques you are taught at a young age.
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+1jgriffin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:20 pmOr Welsh.TigerLT wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:13 pm After reviewing it, Sir called it a big collision.
The ‘what ifs’ about potentially losing us the game are irrelevant; it was a brilliant, legal, shoulder to chest hit - with enough movement from the hands to suggest there was an attempted wrap.
Same people moaning about the hit are the same people who are moaning about the game going soft
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The left arm was coming around all the time but the right arm was never wrapping as it was tucked for the shoulder charge IMO.
After the hit he made a token effort to claim he tried to wrap and the referee bought it
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That's pretty much my view on it, yeah.Tiger_in_Birmingham wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:50 amThe left arm was coming around all the time but the right arm was never wrapping as it was tucked for the shoulder charge IMO.
After the hit he made a token effort to claim he tried to wrap and the referee bought it
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I think this Farrell tackle debate has gone over the top, in particular on social media.
Farrell simply beat the South African player in contact.
Credit where it's due as South Africa were looking dangerous and had England under pressure and Farrell picked his moment very well and closed the game out for England.
Farrell simply beat the South African player in contact.
Credit where it's due as South Africa were looking dangerous and had England under pressure and Farrell picked his moment very well and closed the game out for England.
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Let's agree that's not a universal opinion.BFG wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:44 am I think this Farrell tackle debate has gone over the top, in particular on social media.
Farrell simply beat the South African player in contact.
Credit where it's due as South Africa were looking dangerous and had England under pressure and Farrell picked his moment very well and closed the game out for England.
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Sir was and is always right!biffer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:42 amLet's agree that's not a universal opinion.BFG wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:44 am I think this Farrell tackle debate has gone over the top, in particular on social media.
Farrell simply beat the South African player in contact.
Credit where it's due as South Africa were looking dangerous and had England under pressure and Farrell picked his moment very well and closed the game out for England.
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Even when he's wrong!BFG wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:18 pmSir was and is always right!biffer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:42 amLet's agree that's not a universal opinion.BFG wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:44 am I think this Farrell tackle debate has gone over the top, in particular on social media.
Farrell simply beat the South African player in contact.
Credit where it's due as South Africa were looking dangerous and had England under pressure and Farrell picked his moment very well and closed the game out for England.
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Lawes and Manu retained in the 25 man squad, probably to come off the bench.
Would love to see Ashton given a start on the right wing. Nowell is hardly pulling up trees at the minute and thought Ashton’s movement off the ball and workrate against South Africa was top draw. Also had better handling than I remember previously.
Would love to see Ashton given a start on the right wing. Nowell is hardly pulling up trees at the minute and thought Ashton’s movement off the ball and workrate against South Africa was top draw. Also had better handling than I remember previously.
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In my opinion, Farrell's tackle was a deliberate shoulder charge, no arms, to the players chest/shoulder area, delivered with such force as to hurt. Farrell did not wrap his arms, he then tried to convince others by belatedly appearing to do so, and initially when he landed on the floor, he tried to fain injury, before realising his error and jumped to his feet. He was very very lucky ! This is my opinion from the recording I saw. (I have seen him do the same tackle on previous occasions).
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I asked earlier if Farrell was susceptible to receiving yellow/red cards or a particularly high penalty count. I don't believe it was answered. Unless there is evidence to the contrary I'd suggest Farrell gets it mostly right.