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Europe Head High

Post by BarmyBamford »

Having watched the games so far I have seen real high tackles, over the shoulder, intentional contact with the head, accidental contact with the head and probable contact.
Until our game there wasn't a penalty given let alone a yellow card.
Commentators said more than once how Premiership it would be Pen and Yellow more than once.
Before the Tournament it was highlighted as an issue, competition starts and total lack of consistency.
Yes, I'm annoyed as it is Tigers that have been hit BUT consistency absent as well as how do we know how and what they will referee after ignoring stated aims ?
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Let's be realistic the standard of refereeing across the board is a joke. Today's ref had no idea at line out or scrum, why was ulster 1 not binned for 3 offences on the trot at scrum time??
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Kaino was yellow carded for a high tackle - rode up and made contact with the head (according to TMO and to a lesser degree the Ref) - for Toulouse against Bath earlier in the day.


The fact that it looked a perfectly good but hard hit - akin, but not exactly the same, to George Smith on George Kruis (later overturned) matters not :smt002 :smt003
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Oh, yes, forgot that one.
Thanks for the reminder, too annoyed to put in qualifiers ( almost no... )
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Consistency is Inconsistent.
One Tournament on thing another tournament another.
Even from one federation to the other.

Players with the ball are capitalising on this inconsistency, by advancing head down almost parallel to the turf.
Makes a mockery of the new law.
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Just another stupidly made up law to accommodate the meatheads.
The seat belt tackle, which idiot came up with that saying!
Watching yesterday I never once felt that Ford's tackle was out of control, he knew exactly what he was doing and had the skill set to complete it, there was no danger.
It's a shambles presently with changing laws to reign in mediocre players.
The Irish play the game closer to its roots than anyone presently and they don't do too badly, props who prop, hookers who hook etc etc.
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BFG wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:06 pm Just another stupidly made up law to accommodate the meatheads.
The seat belt tackle, which idiot came up with that saying!
Watching yesterday I never once felt that Ford's tackle was out of control, he knew exactly what he was doing and had the skill set to complete it, there was no danger.
It's a shambles presently with changing laws to reign in mediocre players.
The Irish play the game closer to its roots than anyone presently and they don't do too badly, props who prop, hookers who hook etc etc.
Tight head props who can run with the ball like 3/4s.
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LE18 wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:22 pm
BFG wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:06 pm Just another stupidly made up law to accommodate the meatheads.
The seat belt tackle, which idiot came up with that saying!
Watching yesterday I never once felt that Ford's tackle was out of control, he knew exactly what he was doing and had the skill set to complete it, there was no danger.
It's a shambles presently with changing laws to reign in mediocre players.
The Irish play the game closer to its roots than anyone presently and they don't do too badly, props who prop, hookers who hook etc etc.
Tight head props who can run with the ball like 3/4s.
Not sure about that but at least some level of evasion rather than just smash it.
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Yeah the head contact crack down has been a farce this weekend.

The Toulouse headbutt in the same game was a red card in any game anywhere and right in front of the ref.

Munster prop's swinging arm to the throat was just a penalty.

Ford gets sin binned for a seat belt tackle and then about a dozen go unpunished in the rest of the game.
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Cipriani red card for Shoulder upper arm to head against Munster letter of the law absolutely correct.
Very well explained by Flatman player safety is paramount
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Let’s see what the ban is, in terms of consistency. Spencer got 5 weeks.
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westwinds31 wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:56 pm Let’s see what the ban is, in terms of consistency. Spencer got 5 weeks.
3 weeks max.

In the other game a Castres player has also been red carded though haven’t seen the challenge yet
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westwinds31 wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:56 pm Let’s see what the ban is, in terms of consistency. Spencer got 5 weeks.
In terms of consistency, in the same match, what was the actual difference between Cipriani's effort and 36's? Shoulder to head on both occasions.

Can't be that there were different circumstances - speed etc because that would allow interpretation....wouldn't it?
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The yellow card at the end just proves how ridiculous this has got now, Cipriani was backing away and the Munster player ran into him, red card, the Munster 18 tries to rip Morgan's head off, yellow card, where's the consistency?
No, not that one!

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Crofty wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:04 pm The yellow card at the end just proves how ridiculous this has got now, Cipriani was backing away and the Munster player ran into him, red card, the Munster 18 tries to rip Morgan's head off, yellow card, where's the consistency?
And the Munster player had bent at the knees. Seen far worse in the last two weeks totally unpunished. The game is being brought into disrepute by the inconsistency.
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