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Re: Ulster v Tigers

Post by TigerCam » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:43 pm

sam16111986 wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:19 pm
BFG wrote:
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No MOC was slated for being in the job for about 18 months having had two preseasons and not being able to organise an attacking structure or a defence. Hell all we had under him was a scrum and that's only because of Boris.

I have no idea why when 10m out we kicked to the corner. Scrum, scrum and scrum again. Try and milk a yellow card or two. If nothing else attacking off the back of a scrum marching forward would stop the flankers coming to the rescue of the midfield that was struggling to contain Manu.
Leicester had a strong scrum long before Boris arrived.
The only thing that temporarily halted Leicester's scrum strength were serious injuries to Cole and Ayerza which was something that was conveniently failed to be recognised by fans who wanted Cockerill's head and along with several other players being injured, and the incoming Thacker did little to make that area more consistent.

I don't know why Leicester's first phase attack isn't better and the scrum option isn't utilised more at penalties if the kick at goal isn't fancied, with the players they have Leicester's first phase attack off the scrum should result in many more points, but then I suppose it's down to who makes those decisions.

Regarding coaches the bottom line is that when the players execute better then they do better, as they did against the likes of Sale and Newcastle last season with MOC in charge, or against Saints last week with Murphy in charge, and when they execute worse then they do worse as they did again today.
I understand certain posters gripes with certain coaches but I don't believe any coach has had a fair crack recently due to the inconsistency on the pitch.

There are a players that will make Leicester potentially stronger, Spencer and Genge are two, but in my opinion it'll count for only a little if they continue to execute the basics so poorly against very good teams.
For the record I didn't want to Cockers sacked. If I bumped into him I'd shake his hand and thank him for the memories.

What Stanko has brought is strength in depth at the scrum. Before it was the case that if Ayerza or Cole went off we wouldn't be as good (in the years after Castro and White had move on). This season we're bringing on a Tongan who seems to have more of a reputation for his work in the loose than in the tight and a raw 19 year old and dominating experienced internationals.

In the interviews there's a lot of talk about how he likes to focus on technique and scrumming as a unit. Exactly what you want from a specialist coach.
Can't remember which prem side (obviously not Tigers) it is but one of them change the front 3 as a unit not as individuals to avoid disruption and allowing the front rows to get as a unit? Sounds like a pretty reasonable idea to me but then again I only played hooker when the club side was really short of players.
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Re: Ulster v Tigers

Post by ghdav27 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:34 pm


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Re: Ulster v Tigers

Post by 4071 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:50 pm

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In addition, they rotate those same front row units in the starting lineup. This season they have started 4 matches with a Moon/LCD/Williams unit and 3 matches with a Hepburn/Yeandle/Francis unit. They are yet to start with any other combination of those six players.

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