Cockers watch - he's not happy

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Re: Cockers watch - he's not happy

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Re: Cockers watch - he's not happy

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Mark62 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:28 pm
jgriffin wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:46 pm There are ways of going about arguing, just had two examples of not doing it well. My only concern is that this forum goes the way it did a few years ago with a few posters trading nasty insults, as did the UnOffy.
BFG questioned Hayes ability as a player and Murphy and Stanko decisions as coaches. I simply asked what qualifications he had to make the statements he did against a professional player and 2 professional coaches.
Unfortunately rather than simply answering the questions he chose to throw his toys out of the pram.
Actions speak louder than words
I'm afraid that you are quite wrong Mark.
I did not question the players ability.
I made it very clear that in my opinion it was the coaches fault for putting on a teenager having had a tough match on Monday evening and for what was only five minutes of game time in one of the toughest of positions and whilst being a man down and up against an ugly Georgian.
Wasps vs Tigers page 19.
If the proof really is in the pudding then it was not a good decision.
As for throwing toys out of the pram, I think I passed that stage after the second coach was fired, or was it third, blimey I can't even remember who it was as there have been that many, maybe Hansen or Blake or Mauger, anyway it doesn't matter much to me at present as to be honest I just can't be bothered!
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Ugly Georgian? Bit rude but I assume you’re referring to his scrummaging technique, Zhvania is a very highly rated loosehead and will soon become a favourite at the Ricoh.
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Re: Cockers watch - he's not happy

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BFG wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:09 am
Mark62 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:28 pm
jgriffin wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:46 pm There are ways of going about arguing, just had two examples of not doing it well. My only concern is that this forum goes the way it did a few years ago with a few posters trading nasty insults, as did the UnOffy.
BFG questioned Hayes ability as a player and Murphy and Stanko decisions as coaches. I simply asked what qualifications he had to make the statements he did against a professional player and 2 professional coaches.
Unfortunately rather than simply answering the questions he chose to throw his toys out of the pram.
Actions speak louder than words
I'm afraid that you are quite wrong Mark.
I did not question the players ability.
I made it very clear that in my opinion it was the coaches fault for putting on a teenager having had a tough match on Monday evening and for what was only five minutes of game time in one of the toughest of positions and whilst being a man down and up against an ugly Georgian.
Wasps vs Tigers page 19.
If the proof really is in the pudding then it was not a good decision.
As for throwing toys out of the pram, I think I passed that stage after the second coach was fired, or was it third, blimey I can't even remember who it was as there have been that many, maybe Hansen or Blake or Mauger, anyway it doesn't matter much to me at present as to be honest I just can't be bothered!
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Re: Cockers watch - he's not happy

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Mark62 wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:22 am
BFG wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:09 am
Mark62 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:28 pm

BFG questioned Hayes ability as a player and Murphy and Stanko decisions as coaches. I simply asked what qualifications he had to make the statements he did against a professional player and 2 professional coaches.
Unfortunately rather than simply answering the questions he chose to throw his toys out of the pram.
Actions speak louder than words
I'm afraid that you are quite wrong Mark.
I did not question the players ability.
I made it very clear that in my opinion it was the coaches fault for putting on a teenager having had a tough match on Monday evening and for what was only five minutes of game time in one of the toughest of positions and whilst being a man down and up against an ugly Georgian.
Wasps vs Tigers page 19.
If the proof really is in the pudding then it was not a good decision.
As for throwing toys out of the pram, I think I passed that stage after the second coach was fired, or was it third, blimey I can't even remember who it was as there have been that many, maybe Hansen or Blake or Mauger, anyway it doesn't matter much to me at present as to be honest I just can't be bothered!
I’d like to say I’ll miss you BUT
An acceptance that you were wrong would show class but...
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I’m not you questioned his ability at one point in time saying send him back to the Academy unless you have an imposter
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Mark62 wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:45 am I’m not you questioned his ability at one point in time saying send him back to the Academy unless you have an imposter
You've even got that wrong Mark.
I wrote should be doing better at A League before entering at this stage.
Wasps vs Tigers page 17.
In terms of what he was asked to do on Sunday which was scrummage with a man down against a very strong Georgian prop then I think that it was fair comment.
If he was smashing everything out of sight in the A League then it would certainly make sense to give it a go but I was present at the last A League match and it was hard work, what did they expect a man down against Wasps seniors!
It's regular misinterpretation from yourself, not uncommon on here I know but the cause of many an unnecessarily argumentative topic.
It makes the message board a chore rather than a positive debate of alternative opinion sharing.
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BFG wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:23 am
Mark62 wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:45 am I’m not you questioned his ability at one point in time saying send him back to the Academy unless you have an imposter
You've even got that wrong Mark.
I wrote should be doing better at A League before entering at this stage.
Wasps vs Tigers page 17.
In terms of what he was asked to do on Sunday which was scrummage with a man down against a very strong Georgian prop then I think that it was fair comment.
If he was smashing everything out of sight in the A League then it would certainly make sense to give it a go but I was present at the last A League match and it was hard work, what did they expect a man down against Wasps seniors!
It's regular misinterpretation from yourself, not uncommon on here I know but the cause of many an unnecessarily argumentative topic.
It makes the message board a chore rather than a positive debate of alternative opinion sharing.
Yet you still choose to post on here. :smt023
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Re: Cockers watch - he's not happy

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ellis9 wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:07 am
BFG wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:23 am
Mark62 wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:45 am I’m not you questioned his ability at one point in time saying send him back to the Academy unless you have an imposter
You've even got that wrong Mark.
I wrote should be doing better at A League before entering at this stage.
Wasps vs Tigers page 17.
In terms of what he was asked to do on Sunday which was scrummage with a man down against a very strong Georgian prop then I think that it was fair comment.
If he was smashing everything out of sight in the A League then it would certainly make sense to give it a go but I was present at the last A League match and it was hard work, what did they expect a man down against Wasps seniors!
It's regular misinterpretation from yourself, not uncommon on here I know but the cause of many an unnecessarily argumentative topic.
It makes the message board a chore rather than a positive debate of alternative opinion sharing.
Yet you still choose to post on here. :smt023
Yes until I choose not to!
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Re: Cockers watch - he's not happy

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BFG wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:23 am
Mark62 wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:45 am I’m not you questioned his ability at one point in time saying send him back to the Academy unless you have an imposter
You've even got that wrong Mark.
I wrote should be doing better at A League before entering at this stage.
Wasps vs Tigers page 17.
In terms of what he was asked to do on Sunday which was scrummage with a man down against a very strong Georgian prop then I think that it was fair comment.
If he was smashing everything out of sight in the A League then it would certainly make sense to give it a go but I was present at the last A League match and it was hard work, what did they expect a man down against Wasps seniors!
It's regular misinterpretation from yourself, not uncommon on here I know but the cause of many an unnecessarily argumentative topic.
It makes the message board a chore rather than a positive debate of alternative opinion sharing.
So you have questioned his ability when he was shoved back despite having one team mate less behind him. As for taking Cole off I’m sure someone of you intellectual accum will be aware that the potential damage to a players body is doubled in the last 15 to 20 minutes of a match due to fatigue and the coaches were looking to keep Dan as fresh as possible over a long season.
Anyway BFG you are boring me now so I shall add you to my foe list so I no longer have to read your twaddle
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Re: Cockers watch - he's not happy

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A right laugh at two pouter pigeons strutting. Give it a rest we're on the same side.
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Re: Cockers watch - he's not happy

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jgriffin wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:03 pm A right laugh at two pouter pigeons strutting. Give it a rest we're on the same side.
Try telling BFG that. He’s off to Hinckley
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