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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by sapajo » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:23 pm

I was at the Forum and its brilliant that us supporters are able to pose questions to those presented to us. However, its clear to me that Tigers excercise total control of such events by control and retention of the microphone. I know its a very fine line between control and anarchy but not being allowed to challenge the MP type side stepped replies and then Tigers presenting it is as frank and open discussion, does not sit at all well with me. That said, in fairness, I did manage to get one question in, but try as I may I was not going to be allowed another.
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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by Hot_Charlie » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:44 pm

Knightonian wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:59 pm
Good Question - so a mole
It was an appalling question, mainly because there was 5 minutes of rambling before the person posing the question got to the point.

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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by wormus » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:57 pm

MurphysLaw wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:35 pm
voice of the crumbie wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:19 am
MurphysLaw wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:28 am
Yes, many thanks for relaying the discussion.

Cohen mentions a couple of times that MOC failed to implement recommendations made by the Board. He does not go into any detail. Sorry if I have missed this in the various threads, but would someone please tell me specifically what these were/are?
I don't believe the details have been released anywhere for public consumption.
It is perhaps a shame that no-one asked this last night.
Presumably, Geordie has been made aware.
It was stated that last seasons results were unacceptable & so were the number of home games lost.
The end of season board meeting identified deficiencies & support but actions were not implemented.
Pre season games, 2 weeks late returning. Presumably the failure of "Objectives in his Personal Appraisal" hence private to him, however I was at Exeter and witnessed too Matt O'Connor singly putting out the training cones and ignoring questions from Tigers fans on the close fence line. His rapport with the other coaches looked strained so I wonder if he predicted the sacking?

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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by wormus » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:02 pm

RagingBull wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:59 am
Would have liked another member of the board to have been present really.

Ideally Tom but he doesn't seem to like these events anymore, I wonder why..........
Surely for tax reasons - Guernsey resident & days in the country, rather use those days at the games or his board meetings. :smt023

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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by wormus » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:14 pm

ourla wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:45 am
What is clear is that MOC was a compromise. He managed to maintain the illusion last season that we had a plan and a direction when clearly to me that was not the case. It seems to me MOC tried to replicate what he did last time he was here but without the lynchpin Cockers and in a different time, situation. It was never going to work. Getting in Bateman helped but just prolonged the agony. I don't know what went on this summer but it seems no ones finger was on the pulse and the patient was not being well looked after.

I think off the field the club is well run in a lot of respects, despite my criticisms of the "match day experience". But playing wise we seem to be stumbling. I don't disagree with Cohen that Cockers/Mauger looked like it should be good on paper. But I think what's happened since hasn't been handled well. They will no doubt be praying Murphy makes it easy for them and makes a good fist of it. And it's certainly possible that he will but one fears for it doesn't.
ourla, if it was you questioning the catering, bars and quality of replica shirts from the front rows then you did open up some facts.
The Centreplate contract has 1 year still to run despite admitting it is a bad deal. Likewise the shirt contract still has another year but their embarrassment was having to cut the collars off the new shirts to hand to the club's sponsors, lack of pre season stock and the low quality of the products.
Cotton Traders where are you - they stretch as you age, not like these contour clinging featherlite shirts of recent seasons. :smt002

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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by JP14 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:45 pm

For god’s sake Cotton Traders don’t do rugby anymore :smt013!
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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by Soggypitch » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:48 pm

JP14 wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:45 pm
For god’s sake Cotton Traders don’t do rugby anymore :smt013!
That's why he said "Cotton Traders where are you...", calm down JP I'm worried about your blood pressure!! :smt002
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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by Soggypitch » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:51 pm

wormus wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:02 pm
RagingBull wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:59 am
Would have liked another member of the board to have been present really.

Ideally Tom but he doesn't seem to like these events anymore, I wonder why..........
Surely for tax reasons - Guernsey resident & days in the country, rather use those days at the games or his board meetings. :smt023
Does that make him a "non Tom"?!

All right I won't give up my day time job!! :smt001
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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by ay2oh » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:01 pm

I thought that the forum was quite informative although a couple of the questions were quite tedious
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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by HantsTiger » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:41 pm

Late to the party but thank you Ellis9, I've just caught up on all this. Are you a stenographer, it's the only explaination for the speed of update :smt003

For those that were there, what was the atmosphere like? Hostile, relaxed or just plain resigned (no pun intended!)

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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by voice of the crumbie » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:00 pm

wormus wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:57 pm
MurphysLaw wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:35 pm
voice of the crumbie wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:19 am


I don't believe the details have been released anywhere for public consumption.
It is perhaps a shame that no-one asked this last night.
Presumably, Geordie has been made aware.
It was stated that last seasons results were unacceptable & so were the number of home games lost.
The end of season board meeting identified deficiencies & support but actions were not implemented.
Pre season games, 2 weeks late returning. Presumably the failure of "Objectives in his Personal Appraisal" hence private to him, however I was at Exeter and witnessed too Matt O'Connor singly putting out the training cones and ignoring questions from Tigers fans on the close fence line. His rapport with the other coaches looked strained so I wonder if he predicted the sacking?
According to Daily Mail this morning the recommendations that were not followed centred on additions to the coaching team. I assume this means specialist coaches for areas such as defence or an expereinced "consultant". So once Geordan has settled in maybe we will see additions to the coaching staff.
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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by JP14 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:48 am

Soggypitch wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:48 pm
JP14 wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:45 pm
For god’s sake Cotton Traders don’t do rugby anymore :smt013!
That's why he said "Cotton Traders where are you...", calm down JP I'm worried about your blood pressure!! :smt002
Don’t worry about it :smt002, I’m just fed up of people wishing we went back to Cotton traders it’s never going to happen.
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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by voice of the crumbie » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:45 am

JP14 wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:48 am
Soggypitch wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:48 pm
JP14 wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:45 pm
For god’s sake Cotton Traders don’t do rugby anymore :smt013!
That's why he said "Cotton Traders where are you...", calm down JP I'm worried about your blood pressure!! :smt002
Don’t worry about it :smt002, I’m just fed up of people wishing we went back to Cotton traders it’s never going to happen.
Just like Cockers, Deano, Johnno or Pat Howard returning. :smt003
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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by JackFlashJonny » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:05 am

Good work ellis :smt023

Must say I think we need to get rid of Cohen and Glynn, the continued failure on their part is clear yet obviously with no one person in charge to get rid of these people seems very arduous.

If you look at Glynn's cv how he has got himself into this position is pretty astounding, with no experience that would lead you to believe he should be in charge of rugby operations at such a top club and somehow is unaccountable :smt017

As for Cohen who joined the board in 2011 and as CEO has overseen the worst era for Leicester Tigers should categorically move on, he has brought this club down to mid table levels and again is obviously unaccountable :smt012

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Re: Supporters forum tonight

Post by jgriffin » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:48 am

Your last point puzzles me. Cohen has overseen some major improvements and developments. He doesn't coach the team, scout or anything else except say what can be done financially, at the BoD's direction. The outsourcing of kit is an issue but as with match day drink etc, it's common practice to do so, though many big corps are useless, as evidenced at many other grounds.
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