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Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by ellis9 » Sat May 05, 2018 11:13 pm

The headline story in The Rugby Paper tomorrow is that the Welsh teams are pulling out of the Anglo Welsh Cup so Premiership club owners will discuss a new internal competition.

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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by Rugbyflanker » Sat May 05, 2018 11:25 pm

Why? Squash it all together and raise the quality of the A league.

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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by G.K » Sun May 06, 2018 6:41 am

Simple - just include the top 4 clubs from the Championship, which will also help develop that league by the extra TV exposure and revenue.
Nowadays referees decide matches, players by how much.

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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by JP14 » Sun May 06, 2018 7:22 am

Simple - Relaunch the Pilkington Cup. It would be great for rugby to have an FA Cup-style cup competition in the modern game. Thoughts?
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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by Tigerbeat » Sun May 06, 2018 7:48 am

JP14 wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 7:22 am
Simple - Relaunch the Pilkington Cup. It would be great for rugby to have an FA Cup-style cup competition in the modern game. Thoughts?
Like that idea.
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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by JP14 » Sun May 06, 2018 8:01 am

Tigerbeat wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 7:48 am
JP14 wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 7:22 am
Simple - Relaunch the Pilkington Cup. It would be great for rugby to have an FA Cup-style cup competition in the modern game. Thoughts?
Like that idea.
Thank you Tigerbeat, does anyone know why the RFU changed the Pilkington Cup in the 1st place?
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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by RichG » Sun May 06, 2018 8:48 am

Hopefully if any new competition has groups it will get rid of the ridiculous format where you don’t play teams in your group.

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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by Rugbyflanker » Sun May 06, 2018 9:29 am

We should just mimic the Welsh and have an U23 tournament. An idea of a FA cup style tournament is very romantic but what will our younger players get out of that? Strengthen the A league or implement an U23 tournament with say 2 over age players allowed in each XV to accommodate returning injured or out of form players.

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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by ellis9 » Sun May 06, 2018 9:33 am

I'd have a knock out competition with Premiership and Championship teams in.

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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by Tiglon » Sun May 06, 2018 9:46 am

I'm not sure that a semi-pro team getting humiliated by a Premiership outfit is in anyone's interests. Top 4 from Championship would work though, as would improving the A League.

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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by Spicer » Sun May 06, 2018 10:54 am

I agree with GK. If you have a knockout cup like the FA cup then young players won't have as much match time as most teams will play either 1 or 2 matches. The group stages guarantee 4 matches in the current format. Include London Irish, Ealing, Bedford and Cornish Pirates.

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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by JP14 » Sun May 06, 2018 1:25 pm

An U23 league with 4 Championship teams that doesn’t allow Premiership teams to play no more than two seniors to allow game time from return from injury/suspension will be good I think to replace both the AWC and the A League
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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by Rugbyflanker » Sun May 06, 2018 1:32 pm

Snap JP ;) in fact forget a league,4 groups of four who play each other home and away (in their own group!) winners into SF. AWC without the stupid group stages.

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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by JP14 » Sun May 06, 2018 2:01 pm

Name: National Junior Cup?

How does that sound?
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Re: Anglo no more Welsh Cup

Post by trendylfj » Sun May 06, 2018 3:40 pm

Might have something to do with the extra fixtures in PRO 14 due to 2 more SA sides joining it next year and more to follow the following year.
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