LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 1

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JP14 wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:51 pm Over the moon that Tuilagi is in the senior squad, but it’s interesting that Hills has been preferred over Heyes and the decision to keep Simmons and White in the development squad, perhaps it’s something to do with their education like a uni degree?
Players can only be in a “senior academy” if they are below a certain age or wage.

Nothing to do with who’s preferred or not it’s just a cap thing.
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Leicestertinytiger wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:02 pm
ellis9 wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:08 pm
Rugbyflanker wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:46 am What happened to watch this space Ellis? :smt023
Keep watching.
Still waiting.....
You may be waiting hours.

You may be waiting days.

You may be waiting weeks.
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ellis9 wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:25 pm
Leicestertinytiger wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:02 pm
ellis9 wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:08 pm

Keep watching.
Still waiting.....
You may be waiting hours.

You may be waiting days.

You may be waiting weeks.
You chat some rubbish! :smt002
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Leicestertinytiger wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:43 pm
ellis9 wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:25 pm
Leicestertinytiger wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:02 pm

Still waiting.....
You may be waiting hours.

You may be waiting days.

You may be waiting weeks.
You chat some rubbish! :smt002
Very rarely.
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ellis9 wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:25 pm You may be waiting hours.

You may be waiting days.

You may be waiting weeks.
what a seemingly brilliant way of avoiding an embarrassment that you thought that a signing was to be made yesterday considering Tigers are very likely to sign somebody over the summer. :smt023
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JP14 wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:03 am
ellis9 wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:25 pm You may be waiting hours.

You may be waiting days.

You may be waiting weeks.
what a seemingly brilliant way of avoiding an embarrassment that you thought that a signing was to be made yesterday considering Tigers are very likely to sign somebody over the summer. :smt023
So true, Ellis called it, and was wrong! Now being called out for it! :smt005
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I find some of the promotions( and non promotions) to the Senior squad quite bizarre . Tuilagi and Thacker are extremely lucky to be included based on their showings so far , and I would have thought that Hardwick who is not included , should be a certainty for the bench 10/12 slot this Season .
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MikeR wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:12 am I find some of the promotions( and non promotions) to the Senior squad quite bizarre . Tuilagi and Thacker are extremely lucky to be included based on their showings so far , and I would have thought that Hardwick who is not included , should be a certainty for the bench 10/12 slot this Season .
I agree 100% and think it represents much of Leicester's downfall over recent seasons and until players are selected on merit alone I think it'll continue to prove difficult to develop the required quality of the depth.
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MikeR wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:12 am I find some of the promotions( and non promotions) to the Senior squad quite bizarre . Tuilagi and Thacker are extremely lucky to be included based on their showings so far , and I would have thought that Hardwick who is not included , should be a certainty for the bench 10/12 slot this Season .
The promotions are more likely relative to age/salary cap than who is favoured most
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Leicestertinytiger wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:34 am
JP14 wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:03 am
ellis9 wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:25 pm You may be waiting hours.

You may be waiting days.

You may be waiting weeks.
what a seemingly brilliant way of avoiding an embarrassment that you thought that a signing was to be made yesterday considering Tigers are very likely to sign somebody over the summer. :smt023
So true, Ellis called it, and was wrong! Now being called out for it! :smt005
I never insinuated there would be a signing yesterday. I just said watch this space.
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If a player reaches the end of his 3 year Development contract (age 18 - 21) a decision has to be made whether to release him or give him some more time to develop with a further contract. I don't think it will make any difference to selection at Premiership level if a player is under 21 or over, it will be whoever is thought best suited for the position available. I think Fred Tuilagi on his performances and work ethic on the training ground has deserved his new contract. Thacker has shown potential at times and may just need a bit more time to develop.
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johnthegriff wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:43 am If a player reaches the end of his 3 year Development contract (age 18 - 21) a decision has to be made whether to release him or give him some more time to develop with a further contract. I don't think it will make any difference to selection at Premiership level if a player is under 21 or over, it will be whoever is thought best suited for the position available. I think Fred Tuilagi on his performances and work ethic on the training ground has deserved his new contract. Thacker has shown potential at times and may just need a bit more time to develop.
Thacker showed against Gloucester that he has potential he just needs to develop a bit more. Tuilagi had a very consistent Anglo-Welsh Cup, works tirelessly and obviously Bakewell believes in his potential (as I have always done). Looking forward to hopefully seeing both of these during preseason.
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JP14 wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:49 am
johnthegriff wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:43 am If a player reaches the end of his 3 year Development contract (age 18 - 21) a decision has to be made whether to release him or give him some more time to develop with a further contract. I don't think it will make any difference to selection at Premiership level if a player is under 21 or over, it will be whoever is thought best suited for the position available. I think Fred Tuilagi on his performances and work ethic on the training ground has deserved his new contract. Thacker has shown potential at times and may just need a bit more time to develop.
Thacker showed against Gloucester that he has potential he just needs to develop a bit more. Tuilagi had a very consistent Anglo-Welsh Cup, works tirelessly and obviously Bakewell believes in his potential (as I have always done). Looking forward to hopefully seeing both of these during preseason.
Neither has done enough for me and holding a different opinion to JP14 sits just fine with me.
Retaining two more of the under 18 group would've been more productive in my opinion.
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That's what this forum is for mate! :smt051
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BFG wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:48 pm
JP14 wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:49 am
johnthegriff wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:43 am If a player reaches the end of his 3 year Development contract (age 18 - 21) a decision has to be made whether to release him or give him some more time to develop with a further contract. I don't think it will make any difference to selection at Premiership level if a player is under 21 or over, it will be whoever is thought best suited for the position available. I think Fred Tuilagi on his performances and work ethic on the training ground has deserved his new contract. Thacker has shown potential at times and may just need a bit more time to develop.
Thacker showed against Gloucester that he has potential he just needs to develop a bit more. Tuilagi had a very consistent Anglo-Welsh Cup, works tirelessly and obviously Bakewell believes in his potential (as I have always done). Looking forward to hopefully seeing both of these during preseason.
Neither has done enough for me and holding a different opinion to JP14 sits just fine with me.
Retaining two more of the under 18 group would've been more productive in my opinion.
I do really rate Jordan (who I hope you are referring to) but would it have been too early for him to be in the senior squad?
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