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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by sapajo » Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:12 pm

Pierce is incompetent as is Wigglesworth now relogated to touch judge. Minimally neither can spot a forward pass or off side let alone not award a try that was not scored.
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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by katieakita » Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:27 pm

Lose at Home to Worcester, Northampton and Newcastle and you probably do not deserve to finish in the top 4. However the decision to award a try is beyond me. To then go to the TMO and not sure what evidence they could see that warranted them awarding a try. No conclusive pictures to confirm the first effort was a try and a ref not sure if he blew the whistle and clearly could not see a knee on the floor between the ref and the TMO that is poor . Surely the idea of a TMO is to get the correct decision and this was not, would be nice for the powers that be to say either the try was a correct or incorrect decision.

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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by Tiglon » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:17 pm

The decision and specifically the way it was made by the officials was an embarrassment to rugby. Whether Tigers deserved to win or deserved to be in top 4 is utterly irrelevant.

Really makes me start to consider whether the hundreds of pounds I spend to watch rugby every year is really worthwhile. There are plenty of other entertaining sports out there where the rules are applied competently.

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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by Rugbyflanker » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:20 pm

League is decided over 22 games,bad decision but copout imo. But one I fully expected to be used at the end of season meeting which the BOD will completely swallow!

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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by Tiglon » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:35 pm

Not saying it's the reason we won't make top 4 or top 6. Tigers have been poor over the course of the season, too many players not living up to their reputations.

But none of that has anything to do with Pearce's decision. That kind of shambles isn't mitigated by the fact that Tigers' final league position will be deserved.

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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by WiggoTiger » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:50 pm

From where I sit in the Robin Hood stand in real time it looked a score as ball hit the line. So try. No good blaming the officials as 10 points up we should have managed the game better. I agree Ford was poor all evening.
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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by trendylfj » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:59 pm

Probably not the worst tmo but I cannot remember too many (or any) worse, but will any of them stand up and admit they got it wrong - I doubt it but I am looking forward to rugby tonight's comments. I was always taught to admit my faults and say "I got that wrong, sorry" but will any of them say that - I doubt it. I include both assistants in that - all 4 were looking at it and no-one pointed out that there was no stand up and getting off the floor before Hogg, who was clearly off his feet, dived over. I cannot either remember any occasion in any game when a linesman ever says anything against what the ref or tmo are suggesting when a video review is taking place.
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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by jgriffin » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:00 pm

Fallen foul of the most over-rated Head Coach ever. Luck averages out over the season!
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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by chewbacca » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:05 pm

Fallen foul of not being good enough.
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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by Rugbyflanker » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:30 pm

Fallen foul over a poor head coach! Reap what you sow :(

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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by Big Dai » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:20 am

My biggest gripe with premiership rugby is the TMO.

TMO calls are run on an interventionist nature, often after a smart Alec pundit has picked "something" up. Healey is especially annoying at this and I totally understand Neil Back's perspective when he said he took an instant dislike to the bloke because it saved time.

We had two TMO calls, one a knock on, and the last farce when, regardless of offside or not, every one had stopped because sir had blown his whistle. Yesterday Gloucester scored a try off what looked to be a blatant forward pass and Barnsey just puts his hand up and goes "try", No review, no nothing.

Dual standards abound. Tries are being disallowed for offences that occur elsewhere on the pitch with no intervention or punishment. We have laws or we do not have laws. We review decisions, or we do not. Where was the word in the ear that BoC was actually on his feet and was "innocent"? 3 points can change a game just as easily as 5. Get a grip!

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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by G.K » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:15 am

Yes it's been steadily going that way for some time.

There was no clear grounding on the first attempt that I could see and if the ref couldn't be sure when he'd blown his whistle or whether the Falcons player had been tackled and held then he should not have awarded a try, the laws are clear on that.

That said Tigers should not have been under their posts in the first place, poor game management, hopeless kicking and poor line speed let to that scenario.

Oh yes and BoC was on his feet and carding a player after a head injury is just plain wrong.
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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by ghdav27 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:18 am

I coudnt really tell what was going on and I can't bring myself to try and rewatch it but regardless we let Newcastle off the hook massively they looked finished and were there for the taking after we went 10 points up. If you can't comfortably beat the likes of Worcester, saints, bath and Newcastle at home you don't deserve to make the play offs.

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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by TigerCam » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:23 pm

If the Tigers had not stopped playing and retained the ball this topic would not be here. Regardless of the TMO, LP or did he or didn't he blow etc is by-the-by. Stupid plays especially by George Ford and others cost the Tigers the game just as it did against the Saints. The same just now nearly put Wasps needing another win to Q for the play-offs. As disappointing as it is, the Tigers got what they deserved as it was their own naivety that led to their downfall.
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Re: Have we just fallen foul of the worst tmo ever made?

Post by WhitecapTiger » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:30 pm

Big Dai wrote:
Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:20 am
The game is degenerating into farce.
James Haskell agrees with you, said almost as much in his post match comments - glad he was 'getting out' following a TMO intervention for one of his tackles denied Wasps a final try (didn't affect the Wasps win).
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