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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by BFG » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:20 pm

h's dad wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:07 pm
BFG wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:25 pm
BigChris wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:48 pm
Why not take the initiative - buy a shirt / flag. Take it to the next home game and wait after the game to get it signed?

Just like the many kids do who also want something to hang on their wall at home.

Or pop along to Oval Park at a convenient time and respectfully ask the players there?

There are many ways to get this done without firing an email to the club and expecting it for free.
It doesn't work like that BigChris.
It means everything to be sent from home from the places you love and are missing and it's a morale boost every time you see it.
Eh? I think you're getting mixed up with sunday school, BFG. Still, if it does something to curtail the terminally bored from playing 'let's see how much kit we can needlessly destroy,' I'm all for it.
There speaks a person who has little idea or has sadly forgotten what it's all about, in my opinion!

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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by Noddy555 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:25 pm

Disappointed but not surprised, there is a cancer at the heart of Tigers administration and operations that has been present for at least the last 6 years if not even longer. This decision is yet another manifestation, Tigers really have to sort this out before outside bodies are brought in to investigate. Who knows what they will discover? :smt018

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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by h's dad » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:27 pm

BFG wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:20 pm
h's dad wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:07 pm
BFG wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:25 pm


It doesn't work like that BigChris.
It means everything to be sent from home from the places you love and are missing and it's a morale boost every time you see it.
Eh? I think you're getting mixed up with sunday school, BFG. Still, if it does something to curtail the terminally bored from playing 'let's see how much kit we can needlessly destroy,' I'm all for it.
There speaks a person who has little idea or has sadly forgotten what it's all about, in my opinion!
Based on factual and direct experience, admittedly going back a bit, but also from speaking with people still in, both my generation and the youngsters. Has brought back a few memories. Suggest you revise your opinion BFG.
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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by Tiglon » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:56 pm

Chobbsy wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:08 pm
BigChris wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:48 pm
Why not take the initiative - buy a shirt / flag. Take it to the next home game and wait after the game to get it signed?

Just like the many kids do who also want something to hang on their wall at home.

Or pop along to Oval Park at a convenient time and respectfully ask the players there?

There are many ways to get this done without firing an email to the club and expecting it for free.
All I apologise for put this topic up, it not a scrounging mission as many of you seem to think or imply, it was just to point out how rugby ethos / life has changed since becoming a professional sport.

Just for a little insight for those who have never experienced it, when you are away on deployed, be it in a hostile theatre nor not, or like this in a Islamic country were there is next to nowhere for you to socialise locally and were the locals really don't think very much of Westerners, or a nice sunny place, you still miss home, you still miss your wife and children and ANY little reminder of home or normality goes a very long way to making a deployment more bareable so again I apologise.
I'm not sure amateur sporting clubs give freebies to every non-charitable organisation or person who asks for them either...

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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by Chobbsy » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:30 pm

Tiglon wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:56 pm
Chobbsy wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:08 pm
BigChris wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:48 pm
Why not take the initiative - buy a shirt / flag. Take it to the next home game and wait after the game to get it signed?

Just like the many kids do who also want something to hang on their wall at home.

Or pop along to Oval Park at a convenient time and respectfully ask the players there?

There are many ways to get this done without firing an email to the club and expecting it for free.
All I apologise for put this topic up, it not a scrounging mission as many of you seem to think or imply, it was just to point out how rugby ethos / life has changed since becoming a professional sport.

Just for a little insight for those who have never experienced it, when you are away on deployed, be it in a hostile theatre nor not, or like this in a Islamic country were there is next to nowhere for you to socialise locally and were the locals really don't think very much of Westerners, or a nice sunny place, you still miss home, you still miss your wife and children and ANY little reminder of home or normality goes a very long way to making a deployment more bareable so again I apologise.
I'm not sure amateur sporting clubs give freebies to every non-charitable organisation or person who asks for them either...
Can you read my update, I have apologized for upsetting all the tree huggers and anti alcohol amongst you and of course those anti military and those who are just miserable gits ......... oh yeah and the ones who think I am just scrounging. I need no more lectures.
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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by Mark62 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:40 pm

Noddy555 wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:25 pm
Disappointed but not surprised, there is a cancer at the heart of Tigers administration and operations that has been present for at least the last 6 years if not even longer. This decision is yet another manifestation, Tigers really have to sort this out before outside bodies are brought in to investigate. Who knows what they will discover? :smt018
What are you suggesting, mis management, fraud, theft, or as usual are you talking out of the orifice you’re meant to sit on.
Tigers as a business is run well, yes they may favour sponsors over the every day fan, and some commercial decisions may be unpopular, but to make accusations without proof is unacceptable

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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by johnthegriff » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:54 pm

It may have escaped the notice of some but Tiger's do not run the shop and therefore have t o purchase shirts, balls etc that are given away. They, and the players to receive a kit allocation as part of the deal but extras have to be purchased. Noddy you recently stated you were not supporting your team at Twickenham for purely financial reasons, that is probably sound common sense. Why then is it then that a Rugby based business struggling to break even in the face of rising wage demands exercises judgement in the number of charitable donations it makes you describe it as a cancer?
Most businesses receive requests for donations and at the start of a year set a budget, sometimes for a good cause they may exceed the budget but most causes are good and a business like you and me cannot support them all and has to be selective.

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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by JP14 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:45 pm

It's this sort of situation that the club simply cannot win either way because of some of the whinging fools on here
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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by ellis9 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:35 pm

In just a few seconds I managed to find this on the clubs website.


CLUB CHARITIES

Official Club Charities
Leicester Tigers recognise the importance and hard work of charities and community-based fund-raising groups as well as the positive impact we can have to help generate revenues and profile for these causes.

We receive thousands of requests for donations to good causes each year and unfortunately cannot fulfil them all. The club does, though, have a commitment to deliver assistance where possible and a policy in place to deal with requests.

Official Charity Partners

Leicester Tigers recognises Official Charity Partners each year and for this 2017/18 season these include:

Hope Against Cancer
Warning Zone
Kidney Care Appeal
The Matt Hampson Foundation
Our charity partners will receive a number of benefits to include, but not be limited to, a collection at a first-team match, signed merchandise and assistance in raising the charity's profile by adding the stature of the club during their time as a partner.

Other Charity Requests

As well as the benefits to our charity partners, we will make available 100 pairs of tickets to each of our two designated 'charity fixtures' to be used by fund-raisers to generate revenues.

Applications for these tickets should be made in writing to the following email address [email protected] or post correspondence on headed letter paper to:

Charity Appeal
Leicester Tigers
Aylestone Road
Leicester
LE2 7TR

Due to the large number of applications, we will not be able to accommodate requests from organisations outside of Leicestershire and Rutland. However we will make special provisions for exceptional cases, national campaigns and will consider applications from armed forces or emergency services.

Regrettably time, admin and postage costs mean that the club cannot respond to or acknowledge unsuccessful applications, and the savings made will be used to safeguard the benefits laid out above.

We would like to place on record our recognition of the hard work and dedication of volunteers and charitable organisations across the country and we wish them well in their commitment to the chosen causes.

https://www.leicestertigers.com/club/club-charities

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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by DeadlyDunc » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:20 am

ellis9 wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:35 pm
In just a few seconds I managed to find this on the clubs website.


CLUB CHARITIES

Official Club Charities
Leicester Tigers recognise the importance and hard work of charities and community-based fund-raising groups as well as the positive impact we can have to help generate revenues and profile for these causes.

We receive thousands of requests for donations to good causes each year and unfortunately cannot fulfil them all. The club does, though, have a commitment to deliver assistance where possible and a policy in place to deal with requests.

Official Charity Partners

Leicester Tigers recognises Official Charity Partners each year and for this 2017/18 season these include:

Hope Against Cancer
Warning Zone
Kidney Care Appeal
The Matt Hampson Foundation
Our charity partners will receive a number of benefits to include, but not be limited to, a collection at a first-team match, signed merchandise and assistance in raising the charity's profile by adding the stature of the club during their time as a partner.

Other Charity Requests

As well as the benefits to our charity partners, we will make available 100 pairs of tickets to each of our two designated 'charity fixtures' to be used by fund-raisers to generate revenues.

Applications for these tickets should be made in writing to the following email address [email protected]igers.co.uk or post correspondence on headed letter paper to:

Charity Appeal
Leicester Tigers
Aylestone Road
Leicester
LE2 7TR

Due to the large number of applications, we will not be able to accommodate requests from organisations outside of Leicestershire and Rutland. However we will make special provisions for exceptional cases, national campaigns and will consider applications from armed forces or emergency services.

Regrettably time, admin and postage costs mean that the club cannot respond to or acknowledge unsuccessful applications, and the savings made will be used to safeguard the benefits laid out above.

We would like to place on record our recognition of the hard work and dedication of volunteers and charitable organisations across the country and we wish them well in their commitment to the chosen causes.

https://www.leicestertigers.com/club/club-charities
Thanks Ellis - seems fair and considerate

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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by BengalTiger » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:49 am

Oh my! what a narrow minded lot there is on here now, I am glad the contributors are not representative of the majority of the Tigers fans, shame on some of you and shame on the club for refusing, other clubs have managed to find the time and recourses to contribute good for them, they show Tigers up, IMNSHO

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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by ourla » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:03 pm

ellis9 wrote:
Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:32 am
ourla wrote:
Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:28 am
I am really disappointed in this thread.
In what way?

Disappointed with the club?
Disappointed with the person and people who are disappointed with the club?
Disappointed with the responses?
With all due respect to Chobbsy I don't think it tells us anything about the club. Clearly this a personal and important thing for Chobbsy but to be blunt I have no idea what communuication between him and the club has taken place. It could well be that his request didn't have enough information, that the club misunderstood the request, or that the club had legitimate reasons to deny it or that he just caught someone on a bad day. Social media is both a blessing and a curse with these things. So I was disappointed the thread was started in the first place and equally disappointed that it had legs and turned into a lot of mud throwing based on very little factual information. I've had my own gripes with Tigers in the past (don't get me started on the match day experience and catering issues) and have some sympathy that they have gone a bit corporate but as I say feel this is more of a personal issue where we only have one side of the story.
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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by LE18 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:55 pm

Leicester Tigers recognises Official Charity Partners each year and for this 2017/18 season these include:

Hope Against Cancer
Warning Zone
Kidney Care Appeal
The Matt Hampson Foundation
Our charity partners will receive a number of benefits to include, but not be limited to, a collection at a first-team match, signed merchandise and assistance in raising the charity's profile by adding the stature of the club during their time as a partner.

Other Charity Requests

Due to the large number of applications, we will not be able to accommodate requests from organisations outside of Leicestershire and Rutland. However we will make special provisions for exceptional cases, national campaigns and will consider applications from armed forces or emergency services.

Regrettably time, admin and postage costs mean that the club cannot respond to or acknowledge unsuccessful applications, and the savings made will be used to safeguard the benefits laid out above.

We would like to place on record our recognition of the hard work and dedication of volunteers and charitable organisations across the country and we wish them well in their commitment to the chosen causes.

https://www.leicestertigers.com/club/club-charities
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Seems odd as they say they will consider it?

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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by ellis9 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:59 pm

They did consider it. Then they declined it, which they are well within their rights to do. This really shouldn't have been made such a big thing of. Tigers have done absolutely nothing wrong.

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Re: I am really disappointed in the club

Post by fleabane » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:08 pm

David Clayton gave this club its culture, far more than the Peters. His departure coincided with the decline that most people have noticed. Brand management has taken over at the cost of caring about supporters.
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