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Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by teds » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:07 pm

I was surprised to read Jeremy Guscott in the rugby paper.... "Farrell is playing at a different level now to most of his rivals in the Six Nations. It's prett statospheric, and when it comes to the improvement a player can make he is the benchmark."

We already know Ellis will tell us that he thinks Farrell is rubbish but what do others think? How do you rate Farrell against say Sexton.? Also in improvement - I personally thought Farrell had reached a good standard about three years ago but hasn't moved on since.

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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by ourla » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:28 pm

1. Guscott is a :censored: pundit.

2. Farrell has been brilliant for ages. How do you improve on brilliance.

3. The phrase "bee in your bonnet" was created for ellis.
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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by Wayne Richardson Fan Club » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:35 am

Personally do like Farrell as a person (just something about him) but as a rugby player he is consistently good, Lions Tour in 2013 made him imho.
Sexton still a better 10, Farrell looks more suited to 12 at International level, plenty of better FH's.

As for Guscott.....think I might prefer Dayglo....& I really hate him!
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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by Rugbyflanker » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:50 am

Guscott,the most anti English Englishman in the world! Farrell is world class though,Sexton is a tad overrated for me.

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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by westwinds31 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:28 am

For once I agree with Guscott, Farrell is a class act. I’d go as far to say that he’s up there defensively with the best 12s and definitely the best 10s in world rugby. When at 10, you very rarely beat him for physicality. His mentality is almost Wilkinson-like, it’s always the next job, the next game, he’s never satisfied and looks to improve. His rise to the top has accelerated in the last couple of years, more line breaks, improved kicking, bigger hits and whilst he’s still got that red mist inside him, his discipline has tightened up a lot. One of the world’s best players.

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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by Bunchy » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:50 am

Totally agree, I think there’s a lot of anti Saracens on here which clouds judgement. He is one of our few world class players. He has developed his game so much over the past few seasons, and now is a potent attacking threat as well as a tough defensive player. We are lucky to have him.
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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by TigerCam » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:11 am

Bunchy wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:50 am
Totally agree, I think there’s a lot of anti Saracens on here which clouds judgement. He is one of our few world class players. He has developed his game so much over the past few seasons, and now is a potent attacking threat as well as a tough defensive player. We are lucky to have him.
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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by BFG » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:44 pm

I think that Farrell has got better more recently, and I think that finally receiving the wide recognition that he is in fact an extremely good player has boosted his confidence to raise his game and attack with confidence!
I do like his development as a player, he puts to shame many limited talent ID and coaching theories, his basics have always been extremely strong and it's great to see the difference good coaching and exposure can make, great example for young players in my opinion!

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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by Soggypitch » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:52 pm

A agree with all the comments on Farrell above. He's always been a good player, excellent kicker and with a great big match temperament. What's changed over the last couple of seasons is his ability to make line breaks and put others into space on a consistent basis.

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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by jgriffin » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:55 pm

IMO Fazlet has made great strides in the last two years and is a top international. Previously of suspect temperament, albeit most excellent off-field ambassadorship, he has matured and grown as a player.
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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by mightymouse » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:31 pm

Well on Guscotts expertise ... can we just mention that yesterday he confidently predicted an England win by 15 points .. meanwhile the wise old Johnno councilled caution and said that beware Scotland .. he had a gut feeling they were going to turn up! .. that's why he was a world cup winning captain and Guscott (good player though he was) wasn't!

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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by Noddy555 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:37 pm

Notwithstanding this article Saturdays abysmal performance By Guscott and the rest of the panel made me want to puke and the colour brown (not I hasten to add anything to do with skin colour) was uppermost in my mind. They were so far up one wonders how they managed to crawl back out again. :smt043 :smt043 :smt043

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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by Experimental » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:27 pm

Farrell is a quality quality player and is definitely one of Englands world class players, but he is not on a par yet with sexton or Barrett imo. Sexton is the Lions 10. Guscott has become a better pundit over the years, but hes wrong on this one.

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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by BFG » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:23 am

Farrell is an extremely good player but he isn't world class.
A fully fit Billy V is England's only potential world class player in my opinion.
Launchbury might be one day, if he can mature into a more commanding figure.

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Re: Guscott in the rugby paper

Post by TigerCam » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:02 pm

Farrell is a really good player and will, one hopes, become a great player. IMO Guscott was good in his day but nothing special, playing rugby under the rules that applied then. IMO his punditry borders on 'self-gratification' and is on a par with S. Barnes. They really do suit each other?

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