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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by LE18 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:06 pm

Stephen18 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:53 pm
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Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:43 pm
Today's telegraph suggesting that EJ wants to play Jack Nowell at outside centre. Interesting!
Makes sense he’s playing an outside centre on the wing.
But he, Daly, is out injured.

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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by Stephen18 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:20 pm

LE18 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:06 pm
[quote=Stephen18 post_id=684010 time=<a href="tel:1517435598">1517435598</a> user_id=12229]
[quote=LE18 post_id=684008 time=<a href="tel:1517434988">1517434988</a> user_id=8553]
Today's telegraph suggesting that EJ wants to play Jack Nowell at outside centre. Interesting!
Makes sense he’s playing an outside centre on the wing.
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But he, Daly, is out injured.
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Even more reason you’d have Nowell on the wing, with slade coving centre, and Watson at fullback, the positions they play week in week out for their clubs and two of them played for the lions.

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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by LE18 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:25 pm

He will be selecting, Brown, Watson and May as his back 3. Nowell needs to be found a spot.

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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by Stephen18 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:42 pm

LE18 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:25 pm
He will be selecting, Brown, Watson and May as his back 3. Nowell needs to be found a spot.
I know I can’t understand why he’s so desperate to still play brown who come the World Cup will be 33 not far off 34, sure all selections now should be looking towards the World Cup squad. He also seems to need to find spots for ford, teo, Joseph and Daley(when fit). If I where Nowell I’d want to focus on wing or fullback.

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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by BFG » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:36 am

Stephen18 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:42 pm
LE18 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:25 pm
He will be selecting, Brown, Watson and May as his back 3. Nowell needs to be found a spot.
I know I can’t understand why he’s so desperate to still play brown who come the World Cup will be 33 not far off 34, sure all selections now should be looking towards the World Cup squad. He also seems to need to find spots for ford, teo, Joseph and Daley(when fit). If I where Nowell I’d want to focus on wing or fullback.
EJ might want to double up in every position, makes sense really, competition for places and depth.
I actually think Nowell could be something special at 13!

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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by Roly » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:29 am

BFG wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:36 am
Stephen18 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:42 pm
LE18 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:25 pm
He will be selecting, Brown, Watson and May as his back 3. Nowell needs to be found a spot.
I know I can’t understand why he’s so desperate to still play brown who come the World Cup will be 33 not far off 34, sure all selections now should be looking towards the World Cup squad. He also seems to need to find spots for ford, teo, Joseph and Daley(when fit). If I where Nowell I’d want to focus on wing or fullback.
EJ might want to double up in every position, makes sense really, competition for places and depth.
I actually think Nowell could be something special at 13!
He has played for Chiefs at centre and full-back, Nowell is a good utility back that gets picked on the wing.
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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by Roly » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:50 pm

Stephen18 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:20 pm
LE18 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:06 pm
[quote=Stephen18 post_id=684010 time=<a href="tel:1517435598">1517435598</a> user_id=12229]
[quote=LE18 post_id=684008 time=<a href="tel:1517434988">1517434988</a> user_id=8553]
Today's telegraph suggesting that EJ wants to play Jack Nowell at outside centre. Interesting!
Makes sense he’s playing an outside centre on the wing.
But he, Daly, is out injured.
[/quote]
Even more reason you’d have Nowell on the wing, with slade coving centre, and Watson at fullback, the positions they play week in week out for their clubs and two of them played for the lions.
[/quote]

Slade is injured.
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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by LE18 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:51 pm

Watson will be Browns replacement eventually.

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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by Roly » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:19 am

LE18 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:51 pm
Watson will be Browns replacement eventually.
Quite possibly.

Although Brown is on the cusp, I still think his detractors are being harsh. Brown is still a potent attacking threat - just a yard slower than he used to be.

I mean, Eddie Jones selects him - what does he know?
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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by Robespierre » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:30 am

Brown, unlike Stuart Hogg, for example, never has been and never will be a game changing fullback, one who can find that special something, that extra metre of pace to score the try that wins the game. And if England are to beat New Zealand, then with Brown at fullback, that's unlikely to happen. Ok, so he's dependable under the high ball and is competitive, but if Eddie wants to win the World Cup next year, he'll need to look elsewhere and the 6N is the opportunity to give Watson, for example a run of games to prove his worth, or otherwise.
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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by Tiglon » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:35 am

Brown would be my choice - he's the most experienced, most dependable and is mentally the toughest of the options. With the pace we will have at 11, 13, 14 he doesn't need to be Usain Bolt.

Most of all he has the kind of personality and attitude you want in your team. He's a leader, and Tigers are currently showing what happens when you don't have enough of those.
Brown, unlike Stuart Hogg, for example, never has been and never will be a game changing fullback, one who can find that special something, that extra metre of pace to score the try that wins the game. And if England are to beat New Zealand, then with Brown at fullback, that's unlikely to happen. Ok, so he's dependable under the high ball and is competitive, but if Eddie wants to win the World Cup next year, he'll need to look elsewhere and the 6N is the opportunity to give Watson, for example a run of games to prove his worth, or otherwise.
And last time we beat New Zealand the full back was the well known speed merchant Alex Goode, with none other than Brown on one wing, Ashton on the other, and Manu alongside Brad "lightning" Barrett in the centres. Pace isn't everything, and luckily Eddie Jones understands that.

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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by Robespierre » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:00 am

Tiglon wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:35 am
Brown would be my choice - he's the most experienced, most dependable and is mentally the toughest of the options. With the pace we will have at 11, 13, 14 he doesn't need to be Usain Bolt.

Most of all he has the kind of personality and attitude you want in your team. He's a leader, and Tigers are currently showing what happens when you don't have enough of those.
Brown, unlike Stuart Hogg, for example, never has been and never will be a game changing fullback, one who can find that special something, that extra metre of pace to score the try that wins the game. And if England are to beat New Zealand, then with Brown at fullback, that's unlikely to happen. Ok, so he's dependable under the high ball and is competitive, but if Eddie wants to win the World Cup next year, he'll need to look elsewhere and the 6N is the opportunity to give Watson, for example a run of games to prove his worth, or otherwise.
And last time we beat New Zealand the full back was the well known speed merchant Alex Goode, with none other than Brown on one wing, Ashton on the other, and Manu alongside Brad "lightning" Barrett in the centres. Pace isn't everything, and luckily Eddie Jones understands that.
Fine, you would choose Brown and I'm sure he'll give 100% and won't let the team down. I may be in the minority, but personally I'd much rather have a fullback like Stuart Hogg in the team - maybe this English player doesn't exist!!
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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by Chobbsy » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:36 am

3 Tigers start for England

England team to face Italy:

Brown; Watson, Te'o, Farrell, May; Ford, Youngs; Vunipola, Hartley, Cole, Launchbury, Itoje, Lawes, Robshaw, Simmonds
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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by Chobbsy » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:38 am

Chobbsy wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:36 am
3 Tigers start for England

England team to face Italy:

Brown; Watson, Te'o, Farrell, May; Ford, Youngs; Vunipola, Hartley, Cole, Launchbury, Itoje, Lawes, Robshaw, Simmonds
SORRY !!!!! typo make that 4 Tigers
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Re: The Six Nations Thread

Post by Roly » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:47 am

Robespierre wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:00 am
Tiglon wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:35 am
Brown would be my choice - he's the most experienced, most dependable and is mentally the toughest of the options. With the pace we will have at 11, 13, 14 he doesn't need to be Usain Bolt.

Most of all he has the kind of personality and attitude you want in your team. He's a leader, and Tigers are currently showing what happens when you don't have enough of those.
Brown, unlike Stuart Hogg, for example, never has been and never will be a game changing fullback, one who can find that special something, that extra metre of pace to score the try that wins the game. And if England are to beat New Zealand, then with Brown at fullback, that's unlikely to happen. Ok, so he's dependable under the high ball and is competitive, but if Eddie wants to win the World Cup next year, he'll need to look elsewhere and the 6N is the opportunity to give Watson, for example a run of games to prove his worth, or otherwise.
And last time we beat New Zealand the full back was the well known speed merchant Alex Goode, with none other than Brown on one wing, Ashton on the other, and Manu alongside Brad "lightning" Barrett in the centres. Pace isn't everything, and luckily Eddie Jones understands that.
Fine, you would choose Brown and I'm sure he'll give 100% and won't let the team down. I may be in the minority, but personally I'd much rather have a fullback like Stuart Hogg in the team - maybe this English player doesn't exist!!
Hogg is a flat-track bully and well over-rated.
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