Cohen, Glynn, to be sacked?

[thebearisstilldeano]

Animals aside, Brendan Venter plus 5 years would get my vote. I know he's not popular with Tigers fans, but he understands what a winning team culture looks like and how to achieve it.
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IMHO there are two red lines that Tigers should never cross.
1) NEVER have Brendon Ventor involved in any capacity on our coaching set up
2) NEVER sign Callum Clarke as a player or coach, boot boy or even programme seller

Call me old fashioned but whilst I can forgive, I can't forget.

[Roly]

Animals aside, Brendan Venter plus 5 years would get my vote. I know he's not popular with Tigers fans, but he understands what a winning team culture looks like and how to achieve it.

IMHO there are two red lines that Tigers should never cross.
1) NEVER have Brendon Ventor involved in any capacity on our coaching set up
2) NEVER sign Callum Clarke as a player or coach, boot boy or even programme seller

Call me old fashioned but whilst I can forgive, I can't forget.
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You might have a point RE Clarke, but your opinion RE Venter is wrong, appears to be just as blinkered as the BoD and is why Tigers are now a mediocre AP side (and will be for the foreseeable).

[strawclearer]

You really only had to look at and listen to MOCs interview before the match and to be uninspired and demotivated. If he looks and talks in the same way to the players, there is no wonder that they are uninspired and defeatist in their application.

Against Irish, he wandered around aimlessly, hands in pockets, during the warm-up. No dynamism, no encouragement, no belligerence...nothing.

[johnthegriff]

Having spent a fair amount of time money and effort on getting to and from Castres I am not a happy bunny with the result or performance however when Matt O'Connor was appointed despite me thinking the board got it wrong in sacking Cocker I said Matt would need time and I would judge as we approached the end of this season. For me the jury is still out, top six is a must but I still think we are capable of top four, departures and new signings for next season will show if the management team think like I and actually many others on this board think on what areas need strengthening. I have reason to believe that one influential person in the management team sees things very much as I do, the signings announcements when they come may not be exactly the players I would have tried to recruit but they may not have been available, it is more about the type of players and whether they can do the job required of them, at present we seem to have a few that even if they are decent players they just don't fit the jigsaw. I really want to see a significant move up the Premiership now and a statement of intent for next season before reaching a definite conclusion and admitting certain people were right all along and I was less than correct in my thinking.(Admitting I was wrong may be too big a step).

[fortysix]

Funny that some of you are washing away 5 years to get Tigers back on track..
The Irish Provinces seem to be able to bring in a new Coach and turn it around immediately
Gloucester ditto.

[Big Dai]

Animals aside, Brendan Venter plus 5 years would get my vote. I know he's not popular with Tigers fans, but he understands what a winning team culture looks like and how to achieve it.

IMHO there are two red lines that Tigers should never cross.
1) NEVER have Brendon Ventor involved in any capacity on our coaching set up
2) NEVER sign Callum Clarke as a player or coach, boot boy or even programme seller

Call me old fashioned but whilst I can forgive, I can't forget.
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I'd take Clarke. If you twisted my arm. (Thank you father dear for the bad taste joke of the day. Get back to the cockers impersonation!)

[trendylfj]

I do not agree with sacking MOC unless we have a ready made replacement. The reason is quite simple - the season would be over as we would have a lot of Indians and no Chiefs. I didn't agree with his appointment but would wait until the end of March before doing anything other than hiring a specialist line/forwards coach asap. Having watched them practice in the hotel car park, it looked exactly what it was - a rudderless group of guys trying their best. Just my opinion!! For me, I can't see us getting into the top 4 at all and I do not think we will achieve the top 6 - again just my opinion!! I am also a definite no no no to Venter and would be happy as I have said before with any of these 3 - Plumtree, Boyd or Haig with my preference being Haig.

[wormus]

The Daily Telegraph thoughts on Matt O'Connor's management of Tigers -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/ ... er-tigers/

[chewbacca]

And there's the rub. "Give the young guns a go". Not exactly MOC's style is it.

[G.K]

The Daily Telegraph thoughts on Matt O'Connor's management of Tigers -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/ ... er-tigers/

Was it ghosted by his agent/friend/relative or does Ben Cole have connections to the Tigers BoD I wonder?

We all know the problems go back a few years (to the time he was last here actually) and are not all down to MoC but the simple fact is that a bad situation has got significantly worse. Now I'm not a sporting/rugby genuis but it's clear to me that a good DoR/HC would have had a positive impact after 6 months, not a negative one.

The simple fact is that the squad is more or less as strong as last season and the 'saviour' (Manu) is back, yet are playing worse and are in a worse position in all competetions than last year.

[Roly]

Having watched them practice in the hotel car park, it looked exactly what it was - a rudderless group of guys trying their best.

Funny isn't it, because for most of this season the team looks like the first time they met each other was in the car park outside the ground.

[Tiglon]

Animals aside, Brendan Venter plus 5 years would get my vote. I know he's not popular with Tigers fans, but he understands what a winning team culture looks like and how to achieve it.

IMHO there are two red lines that Tigers should never cross.
1) NEVER have Brendon Ventor involved in any capacity on our coaching set up
2) NEVER sign Callum Clarke as a player or coach, boot boy or even programme seller

Call me old fashioned but whilst I can forgive, I can't forget.

You might have a point RE Clarke, but your opinion RE Venter is wrong, appears to be just as blinkered as the BoD and is why Tigers are now a mediocre AP side (and will be for the foreseeable).
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Would you rather have a winning team or hold an eternal grudge against a bloke who once had an argument with one of our blokes?

I'll take option A every day of the week. Take the time to listen to Venter talk about rugby, about culture, about people. He gets it and, given the proper support, he would turn this club around.

Gloucester have achieved nothing so far but a decent half season, they've won nothing yet - is that all we aspire to for Tigers? The Irish provinces are a rather different proposition to an English club.

Venter has a proven record of taking a middle of the table Premiership club and turning them into the top team in Europe, with the best team spirit and culture. The way it was achieved showed clear planning and evolution over the seasons, it was no fluke. Surely that is exactly what we dream of for Tigers?

[Roly]

Animals aside, Brendan Venter plus 5 years would get my vote. I know he's not popular with Tigers fans, but he understands what a winning team culture looks like and how to achieve it.

IMHO there are two red lines that Tigers should never cross.
1) NEVER have Brendon Ventor involved in any capacity on our coaching set up
2) NEVER sign Callum Clarke as a player or coach, boot boy or even programme seller

Call me old fashioned but whilst I can forgive, I can't forget.

You might have a point RE Clarke, but your opinion RE Venter is wrong, appears to be just as blinkered as the BoD and is why Tigers are now a mediocre AP side (and will be for the foreseeable).

I'll take option A every day of the week. Take the time to listen to Venter talk about rugby, about culture, about people. He gets it and, given the proper support, he would turn this club around.


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You've got that right. Pity that some can't see past their personal feelings about someone to take an objective view of what could actually be very good for the club they claim to love. It seems some would be willing to see it fail rather than admit that someone they didn't really like might actually turn the fortunes of Tigers around.

[MikeR]

I would love 5 years of Venter - he would really sort things out !

[Roly]

I would love 5 years of Venter - he would really sort things out !

+1

He's Tigers' very own Pantomime villain isn't he - but undeniably a top class coach.