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Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by strawclearer » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:14 am

Racing 92 having a very mediocre season so far - played 7, won 3. Carter included in their injury list. There for the taking?
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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by drc_007 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:57 am

French clubs at home are never easy.

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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by trendylfj » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:27 am

Assuming both Shazam and the big K pass HIA's I would go with
Genge
Youngs
Cole
Barrow
Wells
Williams
O'Connor
Kalamafoni
Youngs
Ford
May
Owen
Toomua
Malouf
Veainu
reps
Bateman
McGuigan
Cilliers/Mulipola
Hamilton
Mapapalangi
Harrison
Smith
Tate
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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by Roly » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:32 am

strawclearer wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:14 am
Racing 92 having a very mediocre season so far - played 7, won 3. Carter included in their injury list. There for the taking?
Tigers could only beat LI by 1 point. So no.
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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by RagingBull » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:53 am

For me
1 Genge
2 Youngs
3 Cole
4 Wells
5 Barrow
6 Williams
7 O'Connor
8 Kalamafoni
9 Youngs
10 Ford
11 May
12 Toomua
13 Smith
14 Malouf (thompstone if fit)
15 Veainu

16 Mcguigan
17 Bateman
18 Logo/Cilliers
19 Mapaplangi
20 Evans
21 Harrison
22 Owen
23 Tait

Against Irish it was worrying how little impact our bench had harsh on Hamilton but O'Connor had a big impact against chiefs and Evans IMO would most likely bring more impact of the bench.

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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by wormus » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:05 am

Here is the Tigers squad for Europe, note Manu and Fitzgerald are included still and several new signings but no Tuohy.
Surname First name DOB Age Height Weight
Barrow Dom 19/03/93 24 2.00 m 6' 7" 119 kg 18 st 10 lb
Bateman Greg 20/06/89 28 1.82 m 6' 0" 111 kg 17 st 6 lb
Brady Tom 10/02/91 26 1.77 m 5' 10" 90 kg 14 st 2 lb
Cilliers Pat 03/03/87 30 1.86 m 6' 1" 113 kg 17 st 11 lb
Cole Dan 09/05/87 30 1.83 m 6' 0" 120 kg 18 st 12 lb
Evans William 28/01/97 20 1.83 m 6' 0" 95 kg 14 st 13 lb
Fitzgerald Michael 03/02/87 30 1.97 m 6' 6" 112 kg 17 st 8 lb
Ford George 16/03/93 24 1.78 m 5' 10" 86 kg 13 st 7 lb
Ford Joe 04/06/90 27 1.75 m 5' 9" 85 kg 13 st 5 lb
Genge Ellis 16/02/95 22 1.87 m 6' 2" 118 kg 18 st 8 lb
Hamilton Luke 07/01/92 25 1.90 m 6' 3" 104 kg 16 st 5 lb
Harrison Sam 07/04/90 27 1.75 m 5' 9" 80 kg 12 st 8 lb
Kalafamoni Sione 18/05/88 29 1.96 m 6' 5" 112 kg 17 st 8 lb
Kerr Jake 13/04/96 21 1.85 m 6' 1" 105 kg 16 st 7 lb
Kitchener Graham 29/09/89 28 2.00 m 6' 7" 111 kg 17 st 6 lb
Maksymiw Joe 20/09/95 22 2.01 m 6' 7" 114 kg 17 st 13 lb
Malouf Nick 19/03/93 24 1.86 m 6' 1" 95 kg 14 st 13 lb
Mapapalangi Tino 18/07/93 24 1.93 m 6' 4" 111 kg 17 st 6 lb
May Jonny 01/04/90 27 1.82 m 6' 0" 92 kg 14 st 6 lb
McGuigan George 30/03/93 24 1.76 m 5' 9" 95 kg 14 st 13 lb
Mulipola Logovii 11/03/87 30 1.93 m 6' 4" 124 kg 19 st 7 lb
O'Connor Brendon 11/09/89 28 1.86 m 6' 1" 100 kg 15 st 10 lb
Owen Gareth 05/11/88 28 1.82 m 6' 0" 88 kg 13 st 12 lb
Pakalani Atieli 02/08/89 28 1.83 m 6' 0" 89 kg 14 st 0 lb
Ryan Dominic 28/03/90 27 1.92 m 6' 4" 98 kg 15 st 6 lb
Simmons Harry 25/11/97 19 1.81 m 5' 11" 90 kg 14 st 2 lb
Smith Matt 15/11/85 31 1.93 m 6' 4" 96 kg 15 st 1 lb
Tait Matthew 06/02/86 31 1.85 m 6' 1" 90 kg 14 st 2 lb
Thacker Charlie 10/08/96 21 1.79 m 5' 10" 94 kg 14 st 11 lb
Thacker Harry 18/02/94 23 1.73 m 5' 8" 92 kg 14 st 6 lb
Thompstone Adam 04/09/87 30 1.88 m 6' 2" 96 kg 15 st 1 lb
To'omua Matt 02/01/90 27 1.82 m 6' 0" 92 kg 14 st 6 lb
Traynor Kyle 27/02/86 31 1.83 m 6' 0" 114 kg 17 st 13 lb
Tuilagi Manu 18/05/91 26 1.84 m 6' 0" 110 kg 17 st 4 lb
Veainu Telusa 26/12/90 26 1.80 m 5' 11" 85 kg 13 st 5 lb
Wells Harry 29/09/93 24 1.96 m 6' 5" 80 kg 12 st 8 lb
White Benjamin 27/05/98 19 1.75 m 5' 9" 80 kg 12 st 8 lb
Williams Mike 04/11/91 25 1.95 m 6' 5" 118 kg 18 st 8 lb
Worth George 08/10/96 21 1.85 m 6' 1" 95 kg 14 st 13 lb
Youngs Ben 05/09/89 28 1.79 m 5' 10" 76 kg 11 st 13 lb
Youngs Tom 28/01/87 30 1.75 m 5' 9" 102 kg 16 st 0 lb
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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by voice of the crumbie » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:18 am

Roly wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:32 am
strawclearer wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:14 am
Racing 92 having a very mediocre season so far - played 7, won 3. Carter included in their injury list. There for the taking?
Tigers could only beat LI by 1 point. So no.
If Tigers play with the determination, passion, physicality and commitment they showed against Exeter and are patient in attack rather than trying to force things, then yes. If not, no. A good start and no switching off are essential. Personally I'm glad the LI game wasn't as easy as some thought it might be because that gives the players and coaches things to think about and work on. No away European fixture is easy so I hope we will see the return of Ben Youngs and Telusa Veainu.

Subject to availability my 23 would be:

Genge
T Youngs
Cole
Wells
Barrow
Williams
O Connor
Kalamafoni
B Youngs
G Ford
May
Toomua
Smith
Malouf
Veainu

Mc Guigan
Bateman
Cilliers
Maksymiw (Touhy not registered for Europe)
Mapapalangi
Harrison
Owen
Tait

I've assumed that Kitchener, Brady and H Thacker and Thompstone are still injured and unavailable for selection. If Harrison and Kalamafoni are unavailable due to concussion protocols then I would draft in Hamilton or Evans as back row cover with Mapapalangi moving to 8 and White or Kitto to cover scrum half.

Wormus you have Harry Wells listed as 80kgs 12st 8lb same as Ben White. A typo I assume.
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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by Robespierre » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:35 am

Can Tigers win at Racing on Saturday?
Yes, of course they can, but the odds would normally be against a win.
True, Racing's form this season isn't what we or they may have expected, having lost four of their seven matches, including a loss at home against current leaders Lyon a week ago.
Dan Carter is apparently on the injured list and I've no idea if he'll be fit for Saturday. They've very recently signed South African fly half Pat Lambie, but I don't know if he's been named in Racings' European squad. Maxime Machenaud, a scrum half played at 10 in their loss yesterday at Stade Rochelais.
Strawclearer asks the question, "Are they there for the taking?" The answer is "Non!" However, if a regular 10 isn't in their team, then the opportunity will be there to sneak a win!
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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by Mark62 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:36 am

Allowing for injuries and illness starting 15 just about picks itself. Probably start with Smith over Owen at 13, Owen will give more impact, and if Thompstone fit him ahead of Malouf.

Any news on Kitchener, fairly sure MOC said he would be not far away from the Racing game.
If not fit Hamilton and Mapapalangi on the bench on cover 2nd and back rows

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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by tigerburnie » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:46 am

voice of the crumbie wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:18 am
Roly wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:32 am
strawclearer wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:14 am
Racing 92 having a very mediocre season so far - played 7, won 3. Carter included in their injury list. There for the taking?
Tigers could only beat LI by 1 point. So no.
If Tigers play with the determination, passion, physicality and commitment they showed against Exeter and are patient in attack rather than trying to force things, then yes. If not, no. A good start and no switching off are essential. Personally I'm glad the LI game wasn't as easy as some thought it might be because that gives the players and coaches things to think about and work on. No away European fixture is easy so I hope we will see the return of Ben Youngs and Telusa Veainu.

Subject to availability my 23 would be:

Genge
T Youngs
Cole
Wells
Barrow
Williams
O Connor
Kalamafoni
B Youngs
G Ford
May
Toomua
Smith
Malouf
Veainu

Mc Guigan
Bateman
Cilliers
Maksymiw (Touhy not registered for Europe)
Mapapalangi
Harrison
Owen
Tait

I've assumed that Kitchener, Brady and H Thacker and Thompstone are still injured and unavailable for selection. If Harrison and Kalamafoni are unavailable due to concussion protocols then I would draft in Hamilton or Evans as back row cover with Mapapalangi moving to 8 and White or Kitto to cover scrum half.

Wormus you have Harry Wells listed as 80kgs 12st 8lb same as Ben White. A typo I assume.
Kitto not in the Euro squad
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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by TTRITH » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:20 am

15. Telusa Veainu
14. Nick Malouf
13. Matt Smith
12. Matt Toomua
11. Jonny May
10. George Ford
9. Ben Youngs
1. Ellis Genge
2. George McGuigan
3. Dan Cole
4. Dom Barrow
5. Harry Wells
6. Mike Williams
7. Will Evans
8. Tino Mapalangi

16. Tom Youngs
17. Greg Bateman
18. Pat Cilliers
19. Graham Kitchener
20. Brendan O'Connor
21. Ben White
22. Gareth Owen
23. Adam Thompstone

That's what I'd go with. Evans had a storming game on Saturday, that back line is seriously starting to come good and George just offers more than Tom atm.

I also think with George as skipper we looked more together and had a clearer game plan then when Youngs is skipper. I don't usually like fly halves as skipper but it seemed to work, at least in the first half.
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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by Chobbsy » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:22 am

strawclearer wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:14 am
Racing 92 having a very mediocre season so far - played 7, won 3. Carter included in their injury list. There for the taking?
Very few French sides at HOME are there for the taking...far from it
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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by Scott11 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:23 am

Harry Wells 12 stone 8 😂😂😂

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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by Chobbsy » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:29 am

voice of the crumbie wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:18 am
Roly wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:32 am
strawclearer wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:14 am
Racing 92 having a very mediocre season so far - played 7, won 3. Carter included in their injury list. There for the taking?
Tigers could only beat LI by 1 point. So no.
If Tigers play with the determination, passion, physicality and commitment they showed against Exeter and are patient in attack rather than trying to force things, then yes. If not, no. A good start and no switching off are essential. Personally I'm glad the LI game wasn't as easy as some thought it might be because that gives the players and coaches things to think about and work on. No away European fixture is easy so I hope we will see the return of Ben Youngs and Telusa Veainu.

Subject to availability my 23 would be:

Genge
T Youngs
Cole
Wells
Barrow
Williams
O Connor
Kalamafoni
B Youngs
G Ford
May
Toomua
Smith
Malouf
Veainu

Mc Guigan
Bateman
Cilliers
Maksymiw (Touhy not registered for Europe)
Mapapalangi
Harrison
Owen
Tait

I've assumed that Kitchener, Brady and H Thacker and Thompstone are still injured and unavailable for selection. If Harrison and Kalamafoni are unavailable due to concussion protocols then I would draft in Hamilton or Evans as back row cover with Mapapalangi moving to 8 and White or Kitto to cover scrum half.

Wormus you have Harry Wells listed as 80kgs 12st 8lb same as Ben White. A typo I assume.
It's a real shame that Dan Touhy isn't registered for Europe
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Re: Racing 92 vs. Tigers

Post by TigerCam » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:19 pm

drc_007 wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:57 am
French clubs at home are never easy.
Maybe, but as R92 are 8th and struggled against La Rochelle, no time like the present to get a win? Maybe, as some clubs are, they are more interested in the Top 14 league? If the Tigers are defensively patience then they can come home with 4 pts? While home game are a 'must win' to sneak one in Paris takes the pressure off a bit.

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