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MoC's rant at 4th Official

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Does anyone know what MoC's rant at the 4th official was about just before the final whistle, they briefly mentioned it on TV but never elaborated on it.
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The HIA official wouldn't let Wells back on to the pitch after his (passed) HIA.
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Roly wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:02 pm The HIA official wouldn't let Wells back on to the pitch after his (passed) HIA.
But it is a mandatory 10 minutes regardless of if he passes or not and he went off with 8 minutes (I believe) left on the clock, they even mentioned that in the commentary
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Might have been Mike Williams he did have time to get back on. You're right about Wells game clock on the telly was nearly at 71 minutes when he left the field
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RagingBull wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:12 pm70:02
Ok but was past the 70 minute mark
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Mark62 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:19 pm
RagingBull wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:12 pm70:02
Ok but was past the 70 minute mark
I guess it depends what time the scrum was still going on for as the game finished after 80 although not by much i think.
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Surely it should be ten minutes of real time, not game time? It's to make sure that a HIA is done properly and not rushed, it is not intended to penalise a player like a yellow card.

If there were clock stoppages after he went off, then there would probably have been time for him to come back on.
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I suppose the answer to the question was it was about getting a forward back onto the pitch rather than the 2 scrum halfs and Malouf at flanker.

I think the game clock does stop at 80 because it's actual playing time unlike football.
However as we all know the game can go well past that if the ball is being kept in play, and another complication this season is that a team can kick a penalty and restart with the resulting line out even if the 80 minutes are up
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Mark62 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:05 pm I suppose the answer to the question was it was about getting a forward back onto the pitch rather than the 2 scrum halfs and Malouf at flanker.

I think the game clock does stop at 80 because it's actual playing time unlike football.
However as we all know the game can go well past that if the ball is being kept in play, and another complication this season is that a team can kick a penalty and restart with the resulting line out even if the 80 minutes are up
Don't think it does.
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Tiglon wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:02 pm Surely it should be ten minutes of real time, not game time? It's to make sure that a HIA is done properly and not rushed, it is not intended to penalise a player like a yellow card.

If there were clock stoppages after he went off, then there would probably have been time for him to come back on.
Totally right - might encourage time-wasting but an HIA is not meant to penalise.
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Tiglon wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:02 pm Surely it should be ten minutes of real time, not game time? It's to make sure that a HIA is done properly and not rushed, it is not intended to penalise a player like a yellow card.

If there were clock stoppages after he went off, then there would probably have been time for him to come back on.
HIA and blood injuries are timed on a running clock for the allowed time.
Eg. Player goes off at 3-00pm must returm to the field of play by 3-10pm etc
Sin bins are timed on the stop clock used to time the on field game time.
E.g. The player is binned on 13 minutes 27 seconds can return to the field upon 23 minutes 27 seconds at the next stoppage in play.
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In that case Tigerbeat if Wells passed passed the HIA he should have been allowed back on
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Tigerbeat wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:23 pm
Tiglon wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:02 pm Surely it should be ten minutes of real time, not game time? It's to make sure that a HIA is done properly and not rushed, it is not intended to penalise a player like a yellow card.

If there were clock stoppages after he went off, then there would probably have been time for him to come back on.
HIA and blood injuries are timed on a running clock for the allowed time.
Eg. Player goes off at 3-00pm must returm to the field of play by 3-10pm etc
Sin bins are timed on the stop clock used to time the on field game time.
E.g. The player is binned on 13 minutes 27 seconds can return to the field upon 23 minutes 27 seconds at the next stoppage in play.
Surely not "by 3-10", I think you mean after 3-10, he must stay off for full 10 mins.
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LE18 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:13 pm
Tigerbeat wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:23 pm
Tiglon wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:02 pm Surely it should be ten minutes of real time, not game time? It's to make sure that a HIA is done properly and not rushed, it is not intended to penalise a player like a yellow card.

If there were clock stoppages after he went off, then there would probably have been time for him to come back on.
HIA and blood injuries are timed on a running clock for the allowed time.
Eg. Player goes off at 3-00pm must returm to the field of play by 3-10pm etc
Sin bins are timed on the stop clock used to time the on field game time.
E.g. The player is binned on 13 minutes 27 seconds can return to the field upon 23 minutes 27 seconds at the next stoppage in play.
Surely not "by 3-10", I think you mean after 3-10, he must stay off for full 10 mins.
In the case of blood, he must be ready to go back on by 3-10.

HIA .....you are correct.
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