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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by westwinds31 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:21 pm

Malouf at fault for the first try. Went to challenge for a high ball, then didn't bother....out of position leaving Mulipola to take Banahan....try.

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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by Spicer » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:07 pm

westwinds31 wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:21 pm
Malouf at fault for the first try. Went to challenge for a high ball, then didn't bother....out of position leaving Mulipola to take Banahan....try.
He is certainly partially at fault. But nobody else shifted across to cover the gap on the wing he left. So multiple players are at fault.

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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by L Smith » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:18 pm

Spicer wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:07 pm
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Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:21 pm
Malouf at fault for the first try. Went to challenge for a high ball, then didn't bother....out of position leaving Mulipola to take Banahan....try.
He is certainly partially at fault. But nobody else shifted across to cover the gap on the wing he left. So multiple players are at fault.
Yes, it was defensive positioning. Nothing wrong with backing out of the competition for the high ball and making the tackle. The tackle technique wasn't great, allowing an easy offload and with that much space, it was little more than a walk in.
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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by Tigerbeat » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:18 pm

Given that it was Maloufs first game in fifteens, he was thrown in at the deep end. He is stll learning and will improve as the season progresses. Thompstone, Holmes and Brady would have been good alternatives if they were available for selection.
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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by Big Dai » Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:16 pm

That went about as well as expected. By the sounds of it we didn't gel and they took chances as a result. Thought Bath would be a worthy adversary. Underestimated by some on here. Give it time. The merry-go-round of changes will take time to settle. Plus those ring rusty returning from injury.

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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by Hot_Charlie » Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:21 pm

L Smith wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:18 pm
Spicer wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:07 pm
westwinds31 wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:21 pm
Malouf at fault for the first try. Went to challenge for a high ball, then didn't bother....out of position leaving Mulipola to take Banahan....try.
He is certainly partially at fault. But nobody else shifted across to cover the gap on the wing he left. So multiple players are at fault.
Yes, it was defensive positioning. Nothing wrong with backing out of the competition for the high ball and making the tackle. The tackle technique wasn't great, allowing an easy offload and with that much space, it was little more than a walk in.
He didn't really back out of the chase; he never really committed to it, just as he didn't really chase another box kick a few minutes before.

The reality is though is that it was his first competitive XVs match in top flight rugby, in a new position. Some of his other work was superb and his tackling in open play is often top notch, as Falatau is now aware. I'm sure MOC sees value in him otherwise he could have played an ultra conservative game plan with either Smith or Veainu wearing 14 and possibly bringing in Tait at XV.

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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by ellis9 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:34 pm

There's some absolute tosh spoken by some on here!

Ben Youngs had a very good game. He wasn't slow at the rucks, he got quick ball and showed some moments of genius. To suggest Harrison was better and made us better when he came on is nonsense!

There were 2 key moments which lost us the game. Brendan O'Connor had a 2 on 1 with Malouf outside him. He simply had to pass to Malouf who would have scored. 5 points guaranteed, possibly 7.

The other key moment was after Ben Youngs made a superb break and then set up another 2 on 1, gave a perfect pass to Kitchener, who dropped it. Another guaranteed 5 points, most probably 7 points.

Ok, we made other errors and were poor but had we taken those 2 chances, we would have won.

Some of you need to change last seasons moaning record, especially about slow ball from the rucks from Youngs. If you think he could have given quicker ball than he did today, then you will never, ever be satisfied!
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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by Hot_Charlie » Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:36 pm

ellis9 wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:34 pm

Ok, we made other errors as we're poor but had we taken those 2 chances, we would have won.
And without 2 missed conversions we would have drawn. Better sack Ford then.

How many more games have we got this season? :smt002

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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by ellis9 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:54 pm

Hot_Charlie wrote:
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[quote=ellis9 post_id=672821 time=<a href="tel:1504474456">1504474456</a> user_id=931]

Ok, we made other errors as we're poor but had we taken those 2 chances, we would have won.
And without 2 missed conversions we would have drawn. Better sack Ford then.

How many more games have we got this season? :smt002
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Sack Ford? No. Nowhere have I suggested anyone should be sacked. However, O'Connor and Kitchener should hang their heads in shame for those mistakes. I'd be disappointed if I was a coach of an Under 10's team if they butchered those two try opportunities!

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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by mol2 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:55 pm

Gifted them 2 tries.
Butchered 1 of our own.
Took intil 11 mins to go for ref to penalise their repeated high tackles!
Line outs poor and also poorly refereed.

Much of Baths play around to rucks was more along the lines of the banned flying wedge. Is it legal for 3 players to bind before receiving the ball.

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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by Scott11 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:18 pm

Pack bar Genge and BOC was truly dreadful and the lineout coach needs sacking! Ryan was anonymous and the decision to start Malouf was shocking,the AP is no place to get up to speed! Let's hope they are not MOC favourites! Both out of the 23 next week with Cole,Williams,Hamilton and Holmes starting and Mulipola,Mapapalangi and Kalamofoni on the bench!

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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by Tigerbeat » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:22 pm

Scott11 wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:18 pm
Pack bar Genge and BOC was truly dreadful and the lineout coach needs sacking! Ryan was anonymous and the decision to start Malouf was shocking,the AP is no place to get up to speed! Let's hope they are not MOC favourites! Both out of the 23 next week with Cole,Williams,Hamilton and Holmes starting and Mulipola,Mapapalangi and Kalamofoni on the bench!
Malouf was possibly the best available back up for selection. Brady, Holmes and Thompstone were not up for selection. It was Maloufs first 15s game and a steep learning curve.
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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by amazing tiger » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:25 pm

westwinds31 wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:21 pm
Malouf at fault for the first try. Went to challenge for a high ball, then didn't bother....out of position leaving Mulipola to take Banahan....try.
to me it looked like he was blocked by a bath player and therfore couldnt make the tackle.

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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by Hot_Charlie » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:38 pm

amazing tiger wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:25 pm
westwinds31 wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:21 pm
Malouf at fault for the first try. Went to challenge for a high ball, then didn't bother....out of position leaving Mulipola to take Banahan....try.
to me it looked like he was blocked by a bath player and therfore couldnt make the tackle.
He arrived in plenty of time to make the tackle. Possibly early enough to challenge for the ball. There was another box kick after about 4 minutes (which Austin called as too long from Youngs) which he chased in a very pedestrian way and allowed Watson acres of unpressurised space in which to take the ball. He needs to back himself in the air. Hopefully he soon will.

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Re: Tigers v Bath

Post by Spicer » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:40 pm

mol2 wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:55 pm
Gifted them 2 tries.
Butchered 1 of our own.
Took intil 11 mins to go for ref to penalise their repeated high tackles!
Line outs poor and also poorly refereed.

Much of Baths play around to rucks was more along the lines of the banned flying wedge. Is it legal for 3 players to bind before receiving the ball.
I think we butchered 4 tries. In the first half with manu not passing in a 3v2, O'Connor not passing, Kitchener dropping the ball and whoever throw the ball behind Thackers head when he looked certain to score.

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