Tiglon wrote:I really don't see jet lag as a decent excuse. Three days in which every aspect of their lives including sleep patterns could (and should) have been carefully planned and managed is plenty to cope with a change in time zone.
Really poor opening performance, much improvement needed if they're to challenge the Super Rugby teams, let alone the All Blacks.
Really? 20 hours on a plane and play a match after 3 days.
Better off with planned training.
Tiglon wrote:I really don't see jet lag as a decent excuse. Three days in which every aspect of their lives including sleep patterns could (and should) have been carefully planned and managed is plenty to cope with a change in time zone.
Really poor opening performance, much improvement needed if they're to challenge the Super Rugby teams, let alone the All Blacks.
Really? 20 hours on a plane and play a match after 3 days.
Better off with planned training.
This match achieved nothing for the Lions.
Yes, really. 20 hours on a very comfortable plane, no doubt - besides, it's not length of time on a plane that causes jet lag, it's the change of time zones. Regardless, sleeping patterns can still be managed in such an allegedly professional environment - that should have all been planned in advance so that all players were in suitable condition by the first match. Faletau, Sinckler and Teo all seemed just fine - are they immune to jet lag? Or was it just that others had poor performances for reasons other than jet lag?
welshy08 wrote:First lions match is always the same. Thought the Welsh guys did well.
Lets be honest without the Welsh the lions would have disbanded years ago.
I guess you are right? But the reality is that it is the only international game the welsh are any good at as they have the other nations to play the dominate positions?
Whoever said "one person cannot change the world' never ate undercooked bat
mol2 wrote:This match achieved nothing for the Lions.
The Lions won! First time this group of players have played competitively against a drilled and cohesive side...they won!
Why the doom and gloom, the tour has a long way to go, it's all good surely. Right now the Lions players and coaches have insight into what areas need focus and rigor. Isn't that the whole point of a test?
Tiglon wrote:I really don't see jet lag as a decent excuse. Three days in which every aspect of their lives including sleep patterns could (and should) have been carefully planned and managed is plenty to cope with a change in time zone.
Really poor opening performance, much improvement needed if they're to challenge the Super Rugby teams, let alone the All Blacks.
Really? 20 hours on a plane and play a match after 3 days.
Better off with planned training.
This match achieved nothing for the Lions.
Yes, really. 20 hours on a very comfortable plane, no doubt - besides, it's not length of time on a plane that causes jet lag, it's the change of time zones. Regardless, sleeping patterns can still be managed in such an allegedly professional environment - that should have all been planned in advance so that all players were in suitable condition by the first match. Faletau, Sinckler and Teo all seemed just fine - are they immune to jet lag? Or was it just that others had poor performances for reasons other than jet lag?
I found it takes a few days to get over jet lag when I headed down under last year. The long flight with :censored: sleep and then the effect of time zone change. I adapted pretty quick but it took me a while to feel back to my normal levels of energy.
Took my wife a little longer and my mother in law about a week.
Some of the lads might have been feeling a little low on energy. Also there's only been a short period of training together so a lot of the dropped balls were probably expected.
Isnt the usual rule of thumb one day for every hour of time zone change? Unless they started adapting their sleep patterns well in advance of travelling it'll be another week before their bodies are in the right time zone. Taking sleeping tablets is hardly conducive to top flight rugby.
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Thought Faletau had a good game, followed by Moriarty and Ben Te'o. Sinckler had a go too. Sexton and Hogg were poor and everyone else pretty much anonymous including the captain Warburton and the 2 guys touted as potential captains Best and Wyn Jones.
At least the bench had an impact. Webb looked sharper and far more of a threat than Laidlaw, ditto farrel and Sexton. Kruis and Tipuric were an improvement too.
Tiglon wrote:I really don't see jet lag as a decent excuse. Three days in which every aspect of their lives including sleep patterns could (and should) have been carefully planned and managed is plenty to cope with a change in time zone.
Really poor opening performance, much improvement needed if they're to challenge the Super Rugby teams, let alone the All Blacks.
Really? 20 hours on a plane and play a match after 3 days.
Better off with planned training.
This match achieved nothing for the Lions.
Yes, really. 20 hours on a very comfortable plane, no doubt - besides, it's not length of time on a plane that causes jet lag, it's the change of time zones. Regardless, sleeping patterns can still be managed in such an allegedly professional environment - that should have all been planned in advance so that all players were in suitable condition by the first match. Faletau, Sinckler and Teo all seemed just fine - are they immune to jet lag? Or was it just that others had poor performances for reasons other than jet lag?
Jet Lag is more properly named 'Circadian Dysrhythmia' and approximately 90 minutes of time difference are recovered for every 24 hours at the destination time zone. That does not take into account general fatigue or personal resilience to the condition.
“It is no use saying, ‘We are doing our best.’ You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.” Sir Winston Churchill.
Most of the Lions were poor even the ones that I expected to do well like George, Hogg, Furlong and Warburton, however the one fellow I thought play well (not wishing to encourage our friends from the valleys!) Was Ross Moriarty. Pushed himself into contention with that performance
BFG wrote:
Found it difficult watching Te'o in a Lions shirt to be honest, not worth a place anyway in my opinion but seeing a New Zealand born Samoan representative rugby league convert to union against the New Zealand Barbarians just doesn't do the Lions hype any good for me!
I'm with you all the way - maybe we should call them the Brish and Irish and Kiwi and Pacific Islander and South Africa Lions?
Nowadays referees decide matches, players by how much.
Tiglon wrote:I really don't see jet lag as a decent excuse. Three days in which every aspect of their lives including sleep patterns could (and should) have been carefully planned and managed is plenty to cope with a change in time zone.
Really poor opening performance, much improvement needed if they're to challenge the Super Rugby teams, let alone the All Blacks.
Really? 20 hours on a plane and play a match after 3 days.
Better off with planned training.
This match achieved nothing for the Lions.
Yes, really. 20 hours on a very comfortable plane, no doubt - besides, it's not length of time on a plane that causes jet lag, it's the change of time zones. Regardless, sleeping patterns can still be managed in such an allegedly professional environment - that should have all been planned in advance so that all players were in suitable condition by the first match. Faletau, Sinckler and Teo all seemed just fine - are they immune to jet lag? Or was it just that others had poor performances for reasons other than jet lag?
Might be me but I don't recall the ABs whinging about jet lag in the AIs.
Nowadays referees decide matches, players by how much.
