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Waynetta - too familiar??

Post by tigercaspian » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:45 pm

Watching Quins v Pests......... Sir calling everyone by their first names as if they're all good pals.
Not sure I like that: surely he us meant to 'distance' himself from the players?
Sorry if I'm being a fuddy-duddy but thoughts please?

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Re: Waynetta - too familiar??

Post by Mark62 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:10 pm

I believe it's so players know it's them he's talking to in a ruck etc. Far easier to know it's you than roll away number 5. They still know he's in charge

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Re: Waynetta - too familiar??

Post by Ian Cant » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:19 pm

I think you will find quite a few refs do this. To be honest Barnes is, in my opinion, reffing very well. It is a shame Tigers rarely get him these days.

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Post by ellis9 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:27 pm

I couldn't care less what he calls them as long as he referees the game well, which he is.

At least he is calling them by their first names and not taking the mick out of them or their name like the thread title is.

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Post by Tomvarndell » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:00 pm

Wow watching them tonight I hope they manage to stay top. They would be by far the easiest of the potential sides we could play in the semis. They've fallen over the cliff. Peaked too early. Sarries beat them next week and it will probably be Exeter for us which will be far harder.

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Re: Waynetta - too familiar??

Post by drc_007 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:32 pm

I can see Wasps ending up in third place.

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Post by Cagey Tiger » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:52 am

drc_007 wrote:I can see Wasps ending up in third place.
Agreed. If Sarries beat Brizzle (very probable) and Exeter beat Saints (quite probable), Sarries would need to beat Wasps (probable?) to get a home semi.

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Re: Waynetta - too familiar??

Post by chris111 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:10 pm

tigercaspian wrote:Watching Quins v Pests......... Sir calling everyone by their first names as if they're all good pals.
Not sure I like that: surely he us meant to 'distance' himself from the players?
Sorry if I'm being a fuddy-duddy but thoughts please?
Many of my views of the game would suggest to people that I'm a fuddy-duddy, but I've not seen Wayne Barnes have any difficulty maintaining order on the field. If he was using first names to try and pretend to be 'down wid the kidz' it would not work...but to me he just comes across as someone who feels comfortable with players and uses this to officiate in a way that keeps the game flowing. It seems to me that the feeling is mutual - the players respond well, because they also respect his judgement. Certainly very few players chance their arm with Barnes....and those that do soon find out there's only going to be one winner! In my opinion he's certainly the best in England at the moment and probably a contender for best in the world. I'd love to see him at WR week in, week out.

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Re: Waynetta - too familiar??

Post by jgriffin » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:26 pm

chris111 wrote:
tigercaspian wrote:Watching Quins v Pests......... Sir calling everyone by their first names as if they're all good pals.
Not sure I like that: surely he us meant to 'distance' himself from the players?
Sorry if I'm being a fuddy-duddy but thoughts please?
Many of my views of the game would suggest to people that I'm a fuddy-duddy, but I've not seen Wayne Barnes have any difficulty maintaining order on the field. If he was using first names to try and pretend to be 'down wid the kidz' it would not work...but to me he just comes across as someone who feels comfortable with players and uses this to officiate in a way that keeps the game flowing. It seems to me that the feeling is mutual - the players respond well, because they also respect his judgement. Certainly very few players chance their arm with Barnes....and those that do soon find out there's only going to be one winner! In my opinion he's certainly the best in England at the moment and probably a contender for best in the world. I'd love to see him at WR week in, week out.
Owens uses first names, quite a few good refs do. Spreaders used to.
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Re: Waynetta - too familiar??

Post by strawclearer » Sun Apr 30, 2017 2:17 pm

'First name terms' is a ploy I always found worked well with my offspring. Unfortunately, the young Strawclearers no longer call me 'Sir'!
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Post by Cagey Tiger » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:31 pm

strawclearer wrote:'First name terms' is a ploy I always found worked well with my offspring. Unfortunately, the young Strawclearers no longer call me 'Sir'!
You mean you didn't call them Strawclearer Major, Minor etc. No wonder the country is going to pot :smt003

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Post by strawclearer » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:13 pm

Cagey Tiger wrote:
strawclearer wrote:'First name terms' is a ploy I always found worked well with my offspring. Unfortunately, the young Strawclearers no longer call me 'Sir'!
You mean you didn't call them Strawclearer Major, Minor etc. No wonder the country is going to pot :smt003
Major, Minor and Mistake - and I'm pretty sure we kept them off pot entirely!
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Re: Waynetta - too familiar??

Post by tigercaspian » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:50 pm

jgriffin wrote:
chris111 wrote:
tigercaspian wrote:Watching Quins v Pests......... Sir calling everyone by their first names as if they're all good pals.
Not sure I like that: surely he us meant to 'distance' himself from the players?
Sorry if I'm being a fuddy-duddy but thoughts please?
Many of my views of the game would suggest to people that I'm a fuddy-duddy, but I've not seen Wayne Barnes have any difficulty maintaining order on the field. If he was using first names to try and pretend to be 'down wid the kidz' it would not work...but to me he just comes across as someone who feels comfortable with players and uses this to officiate in a way that keeps the game flowing. It seems to me that the feeling is mutual - the players respond well, because they also respect his judgement. Certainly very few players chance their arm with Barnes....and those that do soon find out there's only going to be one winner! In my opinion he's certainly the best in England at the moment and probably a contender for best in the world. I'd love to see him at WR week in, week out.
Owens uses first names, quite a few good refs do. Spreaders used to.
Thanks for all responses. I am clearly a fuddy-duddy and in a minority of one then !!

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Re: Waynetta - too familiar??

Post by Roly » Tue May 02, 2017 8:25 am

What's he supposed to do?

Say, "Don't do that Number 10"...

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Re: Waynetta - too familiar??

Post by JWM » Tue May 02, 2017 3:43 pm

I am clearly a dinosaur.

I would have found it very odd a referee addressing me by my Christian name during a game.
Far too informal. Surname, or Blue 3.

To me it's to do with personal/professional boundaries, and being seen to be impartial during the game.
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