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Better news than Mermoz!

Post by SirGordonRamsey » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:35 pm

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Post by Noddy555 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:56 pm

If True this is to be applauded but my contention is that this should have been done 2 years ago if not sooner, the adage locking the stable door after the horse has bolted springs to mind.

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Re: Better news than Mermoz!

Post by strawclearer » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:18 pm

Noddy555 wrote:If True this is to be applauded but my contention is that this should have been done 2 years ago if not sooner, the adage locking the stable door after the horse has bolted springs to mind.
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Post by G.K » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:19 pm

All that normally results from such things are flashy PowerPoints and a big bill. Not hopeful this will answer the fundamental issues the consultants will be long gone after the next coaching cycle.
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Re: Better news than Mermoz!

Post by TigerCam » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:23 pm

Noddy555 wrote:If True this is to be applauded but my contention is that this should have been done 2 years ago if not sooner, the adage locking the stable door after the horse has bolted springs to mind.
+1 :smt023. Still a chance to lasso the horse and get back in the saddle.
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Re: Better news than Mermoz!

Post by G.K » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:38 pm

TigerCam wrote:
Noddy555 wrote:If True this is to be applauded but my contention is that this should have been done 2 years ago if not sooner, the adage locking the stable door after the horse has bolted springs to mind.
+1 :smt023. Still a chance to lasso the horse and get back in the saddle.
... and fall off again.. :smt043
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Re: Better news than Mermoz!

Post by Noddy555 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:12 pm

All I can say to that is it's a good job that Leicestershire has some brilliant riding schools and plenty of equine experts.

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Re: Better news than Mermoz!

Post by mol2 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:32 am

It depends what remit they have been given.

Let's hope it's not:

"Wanted DOR. Preferably ex-Tigers, recently retired with negligable coaching experience."

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Re: Better news than Mermoz!

Post by Iain » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:31 pm

I've backed Cohen over his last couple of interviews he's done. I respect and admire the ambition in the logic of making the change mid-season, but this is an issue on which I disagree with him. To think that making the change mid-season would be a magic wand and improve us was naive in the extreme. Surely the board recognised the danger that it could have a negative affect on the season...?

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Post by kornboy130 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:56 pm

G.K wrote:All that normally results from such things are flashy PowerPoints and a big bill. Not hopeful this will answer the fundamental issues the consultants will be long gone after the next coaching cycle.

Are you involved in recruitment at this level or just deriding consultants because they're expensive?

What "normally results" from such things is an array of candidates is put forward - and one chosen. Whilst it may seem due to the public nature of sport any such candidates would be obvious - initial contract, terms and any related movement of international work force has to be managed. At a cost of course - but I'm glad we are hiring professionals to review the situation rather than simply taking a best guess and who's available in an inevitably subjective manner.

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Re: Better news than Mermoz!

Post by jgriffin » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:06 pm

Iain wrote:I've backed Cohen over his last couple of interviews he's done. I respect and admire the ambition in the logic of making the change mid-season, but this is an issue on which I disagree with him. To think that making the change mid-season would be a magic wand and improve us was naive in the extreme. Surely the board recognised the danger that it could have a negative affect on the season...?
I doubt that Cockers would've not given 101% even if his contract was to be terminated. To me, a leap in the dark facilitated by some with an agenda to push (as intimated by Fissler and Newman).
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Re: Better news than Mermoz!

Post by Noddy555 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:33 pm

I've personally found that in my business experience hiring so called specialist consultants the result of whose advice is probably what you thought it would be, is a complete waste of time and money. The only exception is if they are Time & motion experts. I will be very surprised if anything useful comes of it.

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Re: Better news than Mermoz!

Post by Coops » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:08 pm

The challenge with consultants is that they do and can propose some useful elements BUT the physical implementation of such is often difficult, time consuming and/or cost restrained.

Let's wait until we hear the output (if we do) and see what they suggest.

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Re: Better news than Mermoz!

Post by mol2 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:13 pm

Noddy555 wrote:I've personally found that in my business experience hiring so called specialist consultants the result of whose advice is probably what you thought it would be, is a complete waste of time and money. The only exception is if they are Time & motion experts. I will be very surprised if anything useful comes of it.
Wellm, Tigers' coaching appointments over the past few years suggest it is something they lack within the existing structure. (Or if it is, insufficient weight is given to the opinions of those that do.)

If outside "experts" select a choice of options, it may make it easier for the board to avoid sentimentality affecting their choices.

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