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How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by MrPartridge » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:42 am

Well you've got to start 2017 with a bit of optimism haven't you! Happy to be contradicted but this is the only set of realistic results I can see that get us through our Euro pool:

Table: Glasgow 13, Munster 11, Tigers 8.

7 Jan: Racing beat Munster in the rearranged game and Munster pick up LBP
15 Jan: Tigers buck trend and take 5 point win in Paris, Glasgow beat Munster at home with no BPs
22 Jan: Tigers beat Glasgow at WR (5-0) and Munster get expected 5 points home to Racing

Final table: Tigers 18, Glasgow 17, Munster 17

Tiebreakers for teams on same points are head-to-head results so if Glasgow or Munster get to 18 then we are toast!

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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by ellis9 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:22 am

I like it! It's nice to see some positivity on here for a change. Be aware though that you are now going to be shot down for even contemplating Tigers qualifying.

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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by strawclearer » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:36 am

ellis9 wrote:I like it! It's nice to see some positivity on here for a change. Be aware though that you are now going to be shot down for even contemplating Tigers qualifying.
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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by mol2 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:24 pm

Come back next year would be a more realistic answer.
We have taken 2 absolute spankings which makes second place in our group unlikely.

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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by doublecarpet » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:38 pm

ellis9 wrote:I like it! It's nice to see some positivity on here for a change. Be aware though that you are now going to be shot down for even contemplating Tigers qualifying.
Equally, it would be refreshing to see some realism from you sometimes rather than the ridiculous blind faith that pervades every single post you make.
How are your predictions going for this particular run of games?

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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by Soggypitch » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:17 pm

ellis9 wrote:I like it! It's nice to see some positivity on here for a change. Be aware though that you are now going to be shot down for even contemplating Tigers qualifying.
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Post by G.K » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:29 pm

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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by ellis9 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:02 pm

Equally, it would be refreshing to see some realism from you sometimes rather than the ridiculous blind faith that pervades every single post you make.
How are your predictions going for this particular run of games?
I always offer realism.

My predictions, even though I think your question was rhetorical as I am sure you know how they are going, are 1 out of three. Your point is?

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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by rdracup » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:48 pm

Alternative way to QF.

Munster win their remaining 3 fixtures, and we win our last 2 with 1 or 2 BPs. Runner up with 17 or 18 points may well make 8th seed.

Not entirely unrealistic.

Obviously the new or acting DoR will ensure we win away QF at Sarries, then win away in France in semi, then triumph in the final.... You heard it here first.

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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by seldomrong » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:45 pm

how we qualify.......we don't - simples
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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by rdracup » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:56 pm

MrPartridge wrote:Well you've got to start 2017 with a bit of optimism haven't you! Happy to be contradicted but this is the only set of realistic results I can see that get us through our Euro pool:

Table: Glasgow 13, Munster 11, Tigers 8.

7 Jan: Racing beat Munster in the rearranged game and Munster pick up LBP
15 Jan: Tigers buck trend and take 5 point win in Paris, Glasgow beat Munster at home with no BPs
22 Jan: Tigers beat Glasgow at WR (5-0) and Munster get expected 5 points home to Racing

Final table: Tigers 18, Glasgow 17, Munster 17

Tiebreakers for teams on same points are head-to-head results so if Glasgow or Munster get to 18 then we are toast!
Well this isn't going to work now. Let's hope Munster beat Glasgow next Sat and if we win last 2 might just scrape through as runner up. No other (realistic) route now. 17/18 points could do it as only 2 runners up do not go through.

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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by Tigerbeat » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:21 pm

Are there not five groups, therefore five group winners and best three runners up will qualify for the quarters?
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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by kingol22 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:24 pm

I would expect that one of Toulouse, Wasps or Connacht will take a runners up spot in Pool 2. Pool 3 is unlikely to have a runners up spot unless Toulon beat Saracens away, in pool 4 there is an outside chance that Castres could reach 17/18 points. Pool 6 is also very tight and could easily see no one reaching 17/18 points.

The fact all the pools are so tight means things are still in our own hands, finish on 17 points and the likelihood is we will qualify. But to do that we need to go to paris and get 5 points, which might be easier seeing as racing now have nothing to play for.

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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by sapajo » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:58 pm

At this juncture finishing top 4 in the prem should be our top priority not Europe. IMHO its not worth busting the few fit players we have available.
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Re: How we qualify for Euro QFs

Post by Qbec » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:10 am

Whilst I understand the thought of the focus on the Prem. Isn't it just as likely the club should/will want to gain some sort of consistency/momentum by sending out the best/same available players as possible in each of the remaining games we have left to play this season.
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