Crumblies wrote:However Simon Cohen? I don't know the insider 'wheeling & dealings' well enough but as an outsider I do have serious doubts. I keep hearing him moan about our lack of resources etc but what has he done to address that problem? Anybody know what his annual salary is compared with a players salary? like other failing CEO's in business does he get a yearly bonus based on performance?
So in answer to the question should he go? IMHO YES! should go with thanks until I see some evidence of what he has achieved during his tenure can't say!
Anyone else want to discuss?
From 2016 accounts (£k):
The directors' emoluments were as follows:
Aggregate emoluments 411
Company contributions to money purchase pension schemes 52
Highest paid director
The highest paid director's emoluments were as follows:
Total amount of emoluments and amounts (excluding shares)
receivable under long-term incentive scheme 188
Money purchase pension scheme 27
I am neither clever enough to understand nor stupid enough to play this game
I agree with Austin. There is an issue at the club with a lack of a sugar daddy, If all money coming into the club is earnt through ticket sales, tv rights, merch etc. Then when tigers say they're buying the Granby halls site to build a hotel that has to have a direct impact on the actual team, i.e not being able to afford a Toomua replacement.
Also read this Grandby halls purchase will postpone a new training ground for the players.
That said if its a long term investment that will pour profits back into the club then maybe its justified.
Maybe Cohen's not to blame, but I think an independant investigation into the clubs decline would be much appriciated.
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SirGordonRamsey wrote:I agree with Austin. There is an issue at the club with a lack of a sugar daddy, If all money coming into the club is earnt through ticket sales, tv rights, merch etc. Then when tigers say they're buying the Granby halls site to build a hotel that has to have a direct impact on the actual team, i.e not being able to afford a Toomua replacement.
Also read this Grandby halls purchase will postpone a new training ground for the players.
That said if its a long term investment that will pour profits back into the club then maybe its justified.
Maybe Cohen's not to blame, but I think an independant investigation into the clubs decline would be much appriciated.
This is close to the Wasps model but better as less dodgy (ie not issuing bonds at interest rates that are unsustainable). Build the hotel, car park, casino, whatever, take the revenue and fund the team from the profits.
SirGordonRamsey wrote:Also read this Grandby halls purchase will postpone a new training ground for the players.
That said if its a long term investment that will pour profits back into the club then maybe its justified.
The old Granby Halls site purchase was more a case of bid now or lose it forever, very little (nil) chance of going back once another investor got their mitts on it.
A fair decision by the club imo, albeit causing the suspension (hopefully) of other facilities.
Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.
Sounds like Austin being mischievous, I didn't think he was that well connected anymore to have such an in depth knowledge? Plenty of posts on here about the un sustainability of the wasps 'model' that is now being lauded? Does he actually know what he is talking about? Some seem to be using this to take the heat off the 'director' of rugby and the coaches - that is where the buck should be coming to a halt....
SirGordonRamsey wrote:Also read this Grandby halls purchase will postpone a new training ground for the players.
That said if its a long term investment that will pour profits back into the club then maybe its justified.
The old Granby Halls site purchase was more a case of bid now or lose it forever, very little (nil) chance of going back once another investor got their mitts on it.
A fair decision by the club imo, albeit causing the suspension (hopefully) of other facilities.
Ah, think I remember something about that. Guess theres no arguing then, property that close to the stadium has to belong to Tigers.
The plans sound quite good, Fan zone and a Hotel 'ran by a Hotel company that reflects tigers esteem'. Could be a Hilton...
The plans sound quite good
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SirGordonRamsey wrote:I agree with Austin. There is an issue at the club with a lack of a sugar daddy, If all money coming into the club is earnt through ticket sales, tv rights, merch etc. Then when tigers say they're buying the Granby halls site to build a hotel that has to have a direct impact on the actual team, i.e not being able to afford a Toomua replacement.
Also read this Grandby halls purchase will postpone a new training ground for the players.
That said if its a long term investment that will pour profits back into the club then maybe its justified.
Maybe Cohen's not to blame, but I think an independant investigation into the clubs decline would be much appriciated.
I would be very surprised if the project wasn't principally funded by borrowing against the collateral acquired.
I also don't buy into this not having the funds to fully utilise the injury dispensation allowance on top of the salary cap claim - even if Cockers has alluded to it.
I am neither clever enough to understand nor stupid enough to play this game
Austin is paid for the column (does he write or just lend his name?) and therefore has to come up intrigue and mischief, I doubt he gets any tip offs from board members.
He hasn't actually said anything that is not in the pubic domain has he? Just a spin on whats out there.
As an aside the post match interview / analysis yesterday could have been more interesting when you had a Tigers Board member and an employee sitting at the same bench and the question of the DOR's future comes up.
Snorbins wrote:Austin is paid for the column (does he write or just lend his name?) and therefore has to come up intrigue and mischief, I doubt he gets any tip offs from board members.
He hasn't actually said anything that is not in the pubic domain has he? Just a spin on whats out there.
As an aside the post match interview / analysis yesterday could have been more interesting when you had a Tigers Board member and an employee sitting at the same bench and the question of the DOR's future comes up.
Its not really about what Austins saying. Its is a fact that Tigers are a completely self sufficient club, with no owner but a board. Going to run into problems at some point.
I really don't understand your second point. Not that jack Roberts didnt play well, but if we had the money for a class Toomua replacemnt i'm sure pur form would look better.
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trendylfj wrote:...the answer to the thread is Yes but I don't think it will happen. Not many CEO's fall on their broken swords - much easier to let the manager take all of the blame.
Prophetic but I guess it was predictable.
Just in case SC reads this forum, I thought I'd resurrect the thread!
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strawclearer wrote:
Just in case SC reads this forum, I thought I'd resurrect the thread!
And I'll provide an answer for him to read, too. Get rid, yes, but thank? Never. He's whatever the reverse of an alchemist is. A copromist?
Tigers have gone downhill since Peter Wheeler retired & this man was appointed IMHO.
It's time he was replaced with someone who puts The Teams performance first and not prostituting the club to the "Corporate Dollar"
From a very fed up long term season ticket holder.
Tom Tom wrote:
Tigers have gone downhill since Peter Wheeler retired & this man was appointed IMHO....
Quite, but on other threads Wheeler is included amongst those to blame for our current dire situation. I guess some are so enraged they will lash out blindly.
