Sky v BT TV coverage
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Sky v BT TV coverage
One thing that clearly shows during European weekends is the gulf between these two broadcasters. I was sceptical when BT first took over, but the content far far exceeds that of Sky. It is a while since I last watched a game covered by Sky given they only cover non AVIVA games, Pro12, Championship and Super 14; I had forgotten how bad it was.
Yesterday, Montpellier v Leinster was a good case in point, the co commentator was an injured Leinster player and was so so one eyed, almost cringeworthy. Judging from the comments he made you would have thought Leinster won, very little credit to the winners.
I know that we all have a one eyed approach for your own team, but to have this on a principal broadcast commentary was unprofessional. BT do have the occasional moment, but generally they are relatively impartial and talk about what they see. Ben Kay and Austin Healey for example you would expect to have a view, often they are the loudest critics of Tigers. Even Dayglo has the odd positive thing to say.
Content is generally informative rather than patronising, Sky is light years from its heyday and its format looks and sounds somewhat archaic now, particularly with Barnes, Morris and Harrison at the helm. Thank god they don't have the Premiership coverage now.
Yesterday, Montpellier v Leinster was a good case in point, the co commentator was an injured Leinster player and was so so one eyed, almost cringeworthy. Judging from the comments he made you would have thought Leinster won, very little credit to the winners.
I know that we all have a one eyed approach for your own team, but to have this on a principal broadcast commentary was unprofessional. BT do have the occasional moment, but generally they are relatively impartial and talk about what they see. Ben Kay and Austin Healey for example you would expect to have a view, often they are the loudest critics of Tigers. Even Dayglo has the odd positive thing to say.
Content is generally informative rather than patronising, Sky is light years from its heyday and its format looks and sounds somewhat archaic now, particularly with Barnes, Morris and Harrison at the helm. Thank god they don't have the Premiership coverage now.
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Completely agree.
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Amen to that. +1
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+1, although have not watched Sky for a while so cannot comment on their current format.
At the end of the match, do they still have 1 minute analysis, 3 minutes saying what else they are covering, and then go to adverts at least 7-8 minutes before the next programme is scheduled. At least BT have 10-15 minutes analysis (with interruption for adverts), depending on how long the game takes. Even with yesterday's 53 minute first half, they still had 4 or 5 minutes worth. I always used to think that Sky's studio guests were on a cushy number. 2-3 minutes chat before the game, 2-3 minutes interupting the adverts at half time, and 1-2 minutes after the game. Maybe 10 minutes max, split between two guests and the "host". Money for old rope.
At the end of the match, do they still have 1 minute analysis, 3 minutes saying what else they are covering, and then go to adverts at least 7-8 minutes before the next programme is scheduled. At least BT have 10-15 minutes analysis (with interruption for adverts), depending on how long the game takes. Even with yesterday's 53 minute first half, they still had 4 or 5 minutes worth. I always used to think that Sky's studio guests were on a cushy number. 2-3 minutes chat before the game, 2-3 minutes interupting the adverts at half time, and 1-2 minutes after the game. Maybe 10 minutes max, split between two guests and the "host". Money for old rope.
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I would be happy if either had a commentator mute button to be honest. Just the game and the ref mike would do me.
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I get your point big dai - I feel the need to point out that occasionally that ref is Wigglesworth who is about as annoying as Barnes
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the sky commentators see bored, they have no enthusiasm at all..
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True........but then the ref would normally come in for some flack whereas the other morons would remain optional?Bunchy wrote:I get your point big dai - I feel the need to point out that occasionally that ref is Wigglesworth who is about as annoying as Barnes
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Agreed from me too. I get so irritated when SKY commentators continually talk over the ref when he is explaining the decision he is made or when he has talking to/warning players about their actions. I find myself yelling "shut up" at the TV which (I know) is embarrassing. At least most BT commentators, especially Ben Kay, say "let's listen to this" before they pass comment. I am also sick to death of dinosaur Stuart Barnes describing what I have just seen with my own eyes, rather than offering any insight. He just seems to feel the need to fill air time. I really don't know why broadcasters have not offered an audio option of ground and ref only. Another beef with SKY - they don't broadcast rugby in UHD when BT do. Sky Q is supposed to be the next best thing for your viewing experience but as usual, SKY are only covering the round ball in UHD. The sooner the ERC suits ditch SKY the better.
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I just don't understand where the posters above are coming from - BT rugby presentation has always been and remains patronizing and infantile, with random and haphazard camera work. At least the Sky commentators appear to understand the laws of the game!
I much, much prefer Sky's presentation.
I much, much prefer Sky's presentation.
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But...but...http://i4.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/ar ... barnes.jpgDickyP wrote:I just don't understand where the posters above are coming from - BT rugby presentation has always been and remains patronizing and infantile, with random and haphazard camera work. At least the Sky commentators appear to understand the laws of the game!
I much, much prefer Sky's presentation.
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You should have warned us what was coming, strawcleaner! Nasty shock!
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Look - I've got a 'dicky ticker' and if I can take it, so can you! (Mind you, you may not want to click on my link in the 'Jokes revived' thread - it's even scarier!)fleabane wrote:You should have warned us what was coming, strawcleaner! Nasty shock!
Oh and...I never 'cleaned' any straw - I cleared it!
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Would make a good tackle bag at Oval Parkstrawclearer wrote:But...but...http://i4.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/ar ... barnes.jpgDickyP wrote:I just don't understand where the posters above are coming from - BT rugby presentation has always been and remains patronizing and infantile, with random and haphazard camera work. At least the Sky commentators appear to understand the laws of the game!
I much, much prefer Sky's presentation.
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