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G.K wrote:
strawclearer wrote:
Lammy wrote:Pasquali now confirmed that he is off
https://twitter.com/TizPasquali/status/ ... 2956963841
Wish him good fortune - anyone any idea where he's off to?
Nothing against the guy but can anyone explain the point of such signings that hardly ever play a first team game and then leave after 1 or 2 years? There's been a few others that's done that in recent years. I'm struggling to see what Tigers get for the money?
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G.K wrote:
strawclearer wrote:
Lammy wrote:Pasquali now confirmed that he is off
https://twitter.com/TizPasquali/status/ ... 2956963841
Wish him good fortune - anyone any idea where he's off to?
Nothing against the guy but can anyone explain the point of such signings that hardly ever play a first team game and then leave after 1 or 2 years? There's been a few others that's done that in recent years. I'm struggling to see what Tigers get for the money?
He came through the academy?
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We seem to have a problem with talented Academy players, either we don't spot their potential early enough or leave it too late so by that time they are looking elsewhere for first class rugby. My solution would be for tigers to enter a team lower down the echelon perhaps Division 2 north if that were allowed and call them Leicester Cubs. There are not enough games played in the A league if that was developed and expanded then that could be another solution. Whichever way our Academy players need more time in playing good class sides that will test and hopefully develop them. I'm not sure about the history between Leicester Tigers and Lions but as they are in Division 2 North already, what about a take over?
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kornboy130 wrote:
G.K wrote:
Lammy wrote:Pasquali now confirmed that he is off
https://twitter.com/TizPasquali/status/ ... 2956963841

Nothing against the guy but can anyone explain the point of such signings that hardly ever play a first team game and then leave after 1 or 2 years? There's been a few others that's done that in recent years. I'm struggling to see what Tigers get for the money?
He came through the academy?
Yep joined when he was like 16/17 I think.

But don't let facts get in the way of it. ;)
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Noddy555 wrote:We seem to have a problem with talented Academy players, either we don't spot their potential early enough or leave it too late so by that time they are looking elsewhere for first class rugby. My solution would be for tigers to enter a team lower down the echelon perhaps Division 2 north if that were allowed and call them Leicester Cubs. There are not enough games played in the A league if that was developed and expanded then that could be another solution. Whichever way our Academy players need more time in playing good class sides that will test and hopefully develop them. I'm not sure about the history between Leicester Tigers and Lions but as they are in Division 2 North already, what about a take over?
Wouldn't financially sound idea for us TBH.

And you couldn't just enter a team straight into Division 2 north.

Can't see souths or Lions being happy with a full takeover by Tigers either.

We seem to send them either
Div 2
Souths
Lions

Nat 1
Ampthill
Loughbrough
coventry

Championship
Donnie
Nottingham (although not so much recently).
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Interesting article by Alex Shaw in "Talking Rugby Union" looking at the 2019/20 Premiership XV of the Season.

At 12 he has Jacob Umaga of Leicester Tigers:

"The son of Samoan international Mike Umaga and the nephew of All Blacks legend Tana Umaga, Jacob is a versatile fly-half/inside centre who looks capable of playing either position at senior level. A couple of years spent learning behind Matt Toomua (and under Aaron Mauger) could see Umaga catapulted into the first team at Welford Road.

Here's a link if you want to read the article: http://tinyurl.com/hdrpuc7
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strawclearer wrote:Interesting article by Alex Shaw in "Talking Rugby Union" looking at the 2019/20 Premiership XV of the Season.

At 12 he has Jacob Umaga of Leicester Tigers:

"The son of Samoan international Mike Umaga and the nephew of All Blacks legend Tana Umaga, Jacob is a versatile fly-half/inside centre who looks capable of playing either position at senior level. A couple of years spent learning behind Matt Toomua (and under Aaron Mauger) could see Umaga catapulted into the first team at Welford Road.

Here's a link if you want to read the article: http://tinyurl.com/hdrpuc7
He is def off next season.
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strawclearer wrote:There's talk in the French press that Steffon Armitage is close to signing for Lyons...

[On parle dans la presse française que Steffon Armitage est proche de signer pour Lyon. Cela va bouleverser les ravageurs!] :smt003
..and now it's rumoured he's joining Pau ( no, not T'Pau - that's either a Yorkshireman's Batman expletive or a British pop group led by singer Carol Decker which had a string of Top 40 hits in the UK in the late 1980s, most notably "China in Your Hand" and "Heart and Soul.) :smt003

According to the Coventry Telegraph, Pau (who returned to the top flight of French rugby this season after a nine-year absence) are bankrolled by petrol giants Total. The paper says if the latest rumours are correct, the financial and lifestyle attractions of the south of France have trumped caps and international legacy in the flanker’s thinking.

Dai Young will be pleased!
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RagingBull wrote:
strawclearer wrote:Interesting article by Alex Shaw in "Talking Rugby Union" looking at the 2019/20 Premiership XV of the Season.

At 12 he has Jacob Umaga of Leicester Tigers:

"The son of Samoan international Mike Umaga and the nephew of All Blacks legend Tana Umaga, Jacob is a versatile fly-half/inside centre who looks capable of playing either position at senior level. A couple of years spent learning behind Matt Toomua (and under Aaron Mauger) could see Umaga catapulted into the first team at Welford Road.

Here's a link if you want to read the article: http://tinyurl.com/hdrpuc7
He is def off next season.
We are losing a hot prospect. :smt022 Where is he going?
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Spicer wrote:
RagingBull wrote:
strawclearer wrote:Interesting article by Alex Shaw in "Talking Rugby Union" looking at the 2019/20 Premiership XV of the Season.

At 12 he has Jacob Umaga of Leicester Tigers:

"The son of Samoan international Mike Umaga and the nephew of All Blacks legend Tana Umaga, Jacob is a versatile fly-half/inside centre who looks capable of playing either position at senior level. A couple of years spent learning behind Matt Toomua (and under Aaron Mauger) could see Umaga catapulted into the first team at Welford Road.

Here's a link if you want to read the article: http://tinyurl.com/hdrpuc7
He is def off next season.
We are losing a hot prospect. :smt022 Where is he going?

Don't know sounds like he wants more money than Tigers where willing to part with.
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RagingBull wrote:
Spicer wrote: We are losing a hot prospect. :smt022 Where is he going?
Don't know sounds like he wants more money than Tigers where willing to part with.
He's probably going down to the Southern Hemisphere - which is a pity because the SH is on it's way up here!
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I'm told he will be going somewhere with deep pockets prepared to give him a senior contract on an absurd amount of money for someone with no experience, far more than it would be sensible for us to consider.

If you think about teams with those levels of resources I don't suppose your list would be tou long if you were to put one together.
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strawclearer wrote:
RagingBull wrote:
Spicer wrote: We are losing a hot prospect. :smt022 Where is he going?
Don't know sounds like he wants more money than Tigers where willing to part with.
He's probably going down to the Southern Hemisphere - which is a pity because the SH is on it's way up here!
That isn't my understanding.
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Iain wrote:I'm told he will be going somewhere with deep pockets prepared to give him a senior contract on an absurd amount of money for someone with no experience, far more than it would be sensible for us to consider.

If you think about teams with those levels of resources I don't suppose your list would be tou long if you were to put one together.
Last I heard it was potentially Bath or Wasps

Trouble is he has a name which has a big rugby draw, 17 years old hasn't played above A league rugby to many things can happen for us to be offering a big contract to and sets a tough market for the future in terms of negotiations with academy players. He isn't a Ford yet.
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Uamga said in TRP (may 01?) he wanted to explore other things.
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