Turn the sound up on your TV.....BeeJay wrote:I'm not denying something was said. All I'm saying is every time they (whichever TV station) claim they're showing the video footage of the incident, I cannot hear anything.biffer wrote:Nobody has made any denial it was said, but don't let that stand in the way of your revisionism.
Job Marler racially abusing a Welsh player? No Sanction
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Joe Marler has been suspended for two matches and fined £20,000 to be paid to a suitable equality charity in the UK after an independent judicial committee upheld a misconduct charge against the player at a hearing in London today.
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Is there any clarity on what Lee was saying to wind him up?
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No idea. The full judgement isn't out yet. World Rugby says:Tyzot wrote:Is there any clarity on what Lee was saying to wind him up?
"Unlike in cases involving foul play, decisions of misconduct cases are ordinarily reserved until the full written judgement is available given their nature and complexity.
However, the committee has taken the proactive step of issuing its short-form, oral decision to provide certainty to all the parties in the interim, given that the publication of the detailed full judgement can typically take a number of weeks."
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Re: Job Marler racially abusing a Welsh player? No Sanction
Sounds about right. If the six nations hadn't made a complete horlicks of this, wed all have forgotten about this by now.
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Agreed - I do think its harsh and we will hopefully find out what he was allegedly responding to. But for a witch hunt the sentence was quite mild.
Half expected an execution.
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Double jeopardy? Not saying this is wrong, but legal precedence?
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Total PC gone mad. Marler gobs off, he apologises, Lee accepts, Gats endorses the apology as 'banter'. Sociopath activists go loopy, RFU and EJ slap Marler's wrist and World Rugby smacks Marler's backside to make a point. Holy than thou or what!!!!
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I am very disappointed for Marler. A mountain has been made out of a molehill.
A £20,000 fine ? Are you kidding?? World Rugby completely away with the faeries..........
A £20,000 fine ? Are you kidding?? World Rugby completely away with the faeries..........
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A precedent to be regretted at leisure.TigerCam wrote:Total PC gone mad. Marler gobs off, he apologises, Lee accepts, Gats endorses the apology as 'banter'. Sociopath activists go loopy, RFU and EJ slap Marler's wrist and World Rugby smacks Marler's backside to make a point. Holy than thou or what!!!!
Can you imagine?
Lee Dickson "He called my father a d1ck!"
Dorian West " It's fatism, that's what it is!"
Alex Tuilagi - cultural appropriation of dreadlocks!
And what about Nigel Owens suggesting that two forwards might be having a cwtch? Rampant homophobia!!
As someone who is old enough to have demonstrated against apartheid, opposed the SA tour in 70 when no rugby body would stand against racism, I find the whole business pathetic.
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Indeed, JG, there used to be more serious things to remonstrate about.......
It seems that rights are now more important than freedoms.
It seems that rights are now more important than freedoms.
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+1 Has the rugby world gone mad or is it just World Rugby?TigerCam wrote:Total PC gone mad. Marler gobs off, he apologises, Lee accepts, Gats endorses the apology as 'banter'. Sociopath activists go loopy, RFU and EJ slap Marler's wrist and World Rugby smacks Marler's backside to make a point. Holy than thou or what!!!!
Like JG, I'm also "old enough to have demonstrated against apartheid, opposed the SA tour in 70 when no rugby body would stand against racism." (I also walked round with long hair and a 'Margaret Thatcher, Milk Snatcher' t-shirt but that's another story!). This judgement was not appropriate imho.
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Faeroe's, Foroyar or Fairies???tigercaspian wrote:I am very disappointed for Marler. A mountain has been made out of a molehill.
A £20,000 fine ? Are you kidding?? World Rugby completely away with the faeries..........
See BBC report :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/35967459
Re: Job Marler racially abusing a Welsh player? No Sanction
Although I agree £20,000 is over the top to be fined, I suspect Marler still has some change left from his Six Nations wage.
Based on an agreement in 2012, players receive £9224 for being selected in the 23 man squad, a win bonus of £3075 and the squad share £500,000 for winning the grand slam.
Based on him just being in the 23 man squad just twice basically covers the £20,000.
Based on an agreement in 2012, players receive £9224 for being selected in the 23 man squad, a win bonus of £3075 and the squad share £500,000 for winning the grand slam.
Based on him just being in the 23 man squad just twice basically covers the £20,000.
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Sorry,Ellis, that's not the point. Most fines for racist remarks come in at a few hundred pounds , the max is probably £2000. So this is wholly and completely over the top to a point where, if Marler chooses to challenge the scale of the verdict, he is likely to win hands down , ie WRU have dug a big indefensible hole for themselves if he takes them on.