I fear the issue is that Cockers was a "small" hooker and we are in an era of large hookers and he struggles to accept that. Perhaps his replacement for England being Steve Thompson might be a factor?
I agree, and there does appear to be an element of stobborness to the detriment of the player and the team.
We all have our own opinions on players and positions.
Coaches are not automatically all knowing rugby god's as people and they themselves often make out, sometimes being outside the box helps you think outside the box!
Harry Thacker could be a potential world class 12 IMO, a haircut and lose the hat with the defensive ability of Brad Barritt, what a defensive linchpin he could be with that rugby brain and pace, and with the attacking skill and agility of Kyle Eastmond.
Placing him at hooker has been very short sighted!
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Did I imagine reading that he actually played as a 10 as a teenager? Or was that actually the case?
Yes I believe so.
Picture him at 12 with that game, what a player he could be, like a young Matt Toomua, a couple of years around Toomua and Manu coached by Mauger he could be absolutely world class.
I think you might need to take another look at his tackling, I can recall him being run over at least twice in the game, the first was when Piteau scored the first try.
I think you might need to take another look at his tackling, I can recall him being run over at least twice in the game, the first was when Piteau scored the first try.
I am talking about potential, not the finished article.
See the try making hit on Steenson against the Chiefs, the line speed and timing with physicality to be competitve in defence and attack in the position is present.
More important position 12 than most realise, often sets the tone.
I think you might need to take another look at his tackling, I can recall him being run over at least twice in the game, the first was when Piteau scored the first try.
I am talking about potential, not the finished article.
See the try making hit on Steenson against the Chiefs, the line speed and timing with physicality to be competitve in defence and attack in the position is present.
More important position 12 than most realise, often sets the tone.
I think very ironic that people on this forum are so desperate to shoe horn Harry Thacker into the team and yet they demonised Bath and England for doing it with Burgess
And we are comparing a 5ft 8 4th choice hooker vs a 6ft 5 best rugby league player in the world.
Harry Thacker will never be good enough to a Premiership starter in any position. Cameo sub at best. Focus resources and time elsewhere
Will S
Why would RC want to turn Harry into a 12 when he has the England 12, the South African 12 and the Australian 12 on his way
Yet none are available this weekend, nor were they available last weekend.
One will be gone next season, one will be away occasionally or playing at 13 and one may play at 10 occasionally.
darganj
I think very ironic that people on this forum are so desperate to shoe horn Harry Thacker into the team and yet they demonised Bath and England for doing it with Burgess
And we are comparing a 5ft 8 4th choice hooker vs a 6ft 5 best rugby league player in the world.
Harry Thacker will never be good enough to a Premiership starter in any position. Cameo sub at best. Focus resources and time elsewhere
Unfair to compare a player brought in from another code straight into international rugby for huge sums of money and straight into a world cup squad with his position still in doubt between his club and international sides with a very young bloke trying to find his place at the beginning of a career.
Actually it's more than unfair, it's downright cruel!
That last comment from TBD is hypocritical. He has laid into young players in the past.
Yes cr@p players!
Can it really be fair to describe players who have made it to the Tigers ranks like this? You should take your abusive comments back to your playground.
Can it really be fair to describe players who have made it to the Tigers ranks like this? You should take your abusive comments back to your playground.
Apologies, it wasn't very PC, should've used "of limited ability" for the more sensitive, Job Marler has been a bad influence.
