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Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garner.

Post by wormus » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:59 pm

Yes just when we thought things might improve in the selection of Referees having experienced Tim Wigglesworth last weekend we now have Greg Garner on Friday at Newcastle. http://www.planetrugby.com/news/match-o ... uary-14-2/ :smt009

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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by fentiger » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:47 pm

Have we ever won when Garner has reffed us? Have we ever won on a plastic pitch? :smt017

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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by Bunchy » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:50 pm

is there a ref you WOULD approve of?
Less is more....

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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by jgriffin » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:54 pm

Owens, Poite, Garces, Barnes, Whitehouse, JP..... the two above are the founder members of the Horse's Rear End Society. We are not the only club that shivers on their appointment.
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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by WhitecapTiger » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:33 pm

fentiger wrote: Have we ever won on a plastic pitch? :smt017
Beat Falcons on theirs last year:

http://www.leicestertigers.com/rugby/22250.php

Still working on the other Q regarding GG
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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by fentiger » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:12 pm

WhitecapTiger wrote:
fentiger wrote: Have we ever won on a plastic pitch? :smt017
Beat Falcons on theirs last year:

http://www.leicestertigers.com/rugby/22250.php

Still working on the other Q regarding GG
Thanks Whitecap :smt023 I had a feeling these were rare occasions :smt044

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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by Hot_Charlie » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:36 pm

fentiger wrote:Have we ever won when Garner has reffed us? Have we ever won on a plastic pitch? :smt017
16-12 v Saints in 2012. :smt003

There are probably others.

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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by Bunchy » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:45 pm

the premiership semi at Welford Road a few years back - the one with Croft's amazing try...
Less is more....

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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by WhitecapTiger » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:08 am

fentiger wrote:
WhitecapTiger wrote:
fentiger wrote: Have we ever won on a plastic pitch? :smt017
Beat Falcons on theirs last year:

http://www.leicestertigers.com/rugby/22250.php

Still working on the other Q regarding GG
Thanks Whitecap :smt023 I had a feeling these were rare occasions :smt044
No problem fen tiger, here's another one that (finally) sprang to mind....LV cup match at Cardiff

http://www.leicestertigers.com/rugby/21763.php
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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by wellstiger » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:01 am

I would prefer GG to Wiggy, ......JUST
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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by Roly » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:39 pm

If Tigers don't run around playing with their pish flaps like they did last week, neither the playing surface nor the referee should be a factor in the result.
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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by Noggs » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:57 pm

There is a skill in playing the ref; even the bad ones. It's the same for both teams, hence, no excuses.

Know how he refs,what he is looking for and what you will probably get away with. Simples :smt003
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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by jgriffin » Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:35 pm

Noggs wrote:There is a skill in playing the ref; even the bad ones. It's the same for both teams, hence, no excuses.

Know how he refs,what he is looking for and what you will probably get away with. Simples :smt003
I think that you have targeted the issue - the problem with both these refs is you don't know what they want, possibly they don't know themselves. I find many refs fairly straightforward as Noggs writes, these two...... :smt013
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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by chris11 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:23 pm

jgriffin wrote:
Noggs wrote:There is a skill in playing the ref; even the bad ones. It's the same for both teams, hence, no excuses.

Know how he refs,what he is looking for and what you will probably get away with. Simples :smt003
I think that you have targeted the issue - the problem with both these refs is you don't know what they want, possibly they don't know themselves. I find many refs fairly straightforward as Noggs writes, these two...... :smt013
True enough - but this doesn't alter the fact that both sides are in the same boat. Random poor decisions will generally even out over the season - but of course may not do so within any one match.

Nobody (I hope) here would suggest GG is biased - so if it is merely that he makes bad decisions, they are just as likely to go our way as N'castle's! Even if they do go the other way, it is highly unlikely that it would make more than a 2 score difference. Consequence? If we can play 2 scores better than the opposition, we take capricious refereeing out of the equation :smt002

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Re: Newcastle v Tigers - Oh no just gets worse its Greg Garn

Post by wormus » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:54 pm

Bunchy wrote:is there a ref you WOULD approve of?
Yes there are several good Referees at present and there are several good prospects coming along. Leighton Hodges, Ben Whitehouse & Nigel Owens on a good day without cameras! for Wales, Luke Pearce,JP Doyle & Wayne Barnes have both improved since the RWC2015 especially with playing on during TMO investigations,Andrew Small, Ashley Rowden of England: Watch Glen Jackson this w/e, One of the best was the great Clive Norling no nonsense.
But who will forget Gregs "Triple Penalty Tries" v Saracens on their plastic mat in January.

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