Bad results for Pro 12.

[Bill W (2)]

Following their poor performance in both competitons should their representation be reduced?

[ourla]

No. It's just one year.

[Noddy555]

Yes, Yet again not one club from Scotland, Ireland or Wales has made it through to the European cup quarter finals. Expected of Scotland, probably also Wales too, but not to have an Irish Club there is most unexpected. Perhaps it is a comment on the standard of rugby in the Pro 12.

[Stu_F]

Sky won't be happy!

[ourla]

I think it was 2 or 3 years ago when there was a really poor show from the English teams. Should we have had our quota reduced.

[fortysix]

Swings and Roundabouts
Except the swing is going upwards and the roundabout is static
Poor 12 , more like

[DickyP]

Does mean the three Celtic nations will be entirely focused on 6 Nations - I strongly suspect not one of their national squads will play a single minute of Pro 12 between now and after 19 March.

Ireland's results, as I've mentioned on other threads, is not entirely unexpected at the end of an era of greats. They were truly fortunate to have a raft of wonderful talent who appeared at the same time, and if they aren't immediately replaced by up-and-coming players it's no real surprise.

[biffer]

Yes, Yet again not one club from Scotland, Ireland or Wales has made it through to the European cup quarter finals. Expected of Scotland, probably also Wales too, but not to have an Irish Club there is most unexpected. Perhaps it is a comment on the standard of rugby in the Pro 12.

Not quite sure where you get the 'yet again' bit from. That would suggest it's happened before.

Trolling for a response is one thing, but it's best to have a modicum of truth there if you're trying to do it.

[Cagey Tiger]

Yes, Yet again not one club from Scotland, Ireland or Wales has made it through to the European cup quarter finals. Expected of Scotland, probably also Wales too, but not to have an Irish Club there is most unexpected. Perhaps it is a comment on the standard of rugby in the Pro 12.

Not quite sure where you get the 'yet again' bit from. That would suggest it's happened before.

Trolling for a response is one thing, but it's best to have a modicum of truth there if you're trying to do it.

Noddy555 doesn't do trolling. He just tells it how he thinks it is. And nobody is perfect

[biffer]

Yes, Yet again not one club from Scotland, Ireland or Wales has made it through to the European cup quarter finals. Expected of Scotland, probably also Wales too, but not to have an Irish Club there is most unexpected. Perhaps it is a comment on the standard of rugby in the Pro 12.

Not quite sure where you get the 'yet again' bit from. That would suggest it's happened before.

Trolling for a response is one thing, but it's best to have a modicum of truth there if you're trying to do it.

Noddy555 doesn't do trolling. He just tells it how he thinks it is. And nobody is perfect

exsept me

[Jeremy Anderson]

It would be nice if the TV money for Euro Cup was distributed based on the number of games played by the Premiership, Pro 12 and Top 14 teams with a multiplier being applied for the knock out stages.
Even more interesting would be to pay out the TV money based as above but only on games won. Mind you I would like to also bring in a salary cap for a club's European squad but can see no way to police it.

[G.K]

Could this be the first step to an Anglo-French club super league, i.e. excluding the Celtic franchises?

[Bill W (2)]

Could this be the first step to an Anglo-French club super league, i.e. excluding the Celtic franchises?

There is a separate thread on this. Where I am on record on saying that I regard this as inevitable - although not before much screaming and shouting.

But with regard to the European Knock Out Competitions, it took many years for the "revolution" that removed the innate favouritism to PRO12 teams. Now as Jeremy Anderson points out maybe further adjustments are required.

[Noggs]

The new system needs to be given time. Pro 12 clubs now have to play a lot more good rugby if they are to qualify for the Champions Cup which probably means they need more depth. They will get better and you have to be careful what you wish for