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Captain Hartley

Post by rocktop51 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:02 am

Worst fears look as though they are to be confirmed

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/35366191

Oh well !!
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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by northerntiger » Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:44 am

Odd if so, given that he has been quoted that he would pick his 1st 15, then pick the captain from them. Given that Hartley has not played for 6 weeks, and George is playing well in a table topping, unbeaten team, I don't quite understand the logic.

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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by Iain » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:32 am

He wouldn't be my choice. I don't think it will prove to be a good choice.

But I have heard several people say "I won't support England if he's captain". I will not be adding my name to that list.

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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by Noggs » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:01 am

What will be will be and there's bu**er all we can do about it. :smt009
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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by G.K » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:36 am

It's all an Aussie plot I tell ye!
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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by Bunchy » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:15 pm

I think we are all missing one possibility - what are the odds on him doing an "Ashton" this weekend and screwing up yet another chance????
Away, in Wales, with a screaming crowd on his back and his famously short fuse and small brain..... got to be worth a punt hasn't it?
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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by Roly » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:31 pm

northerntiger wrote:Odd if so, given that he has been quoted that he would pick his 1st 15, then pick the captain from them. Given that Hartley has not played for 6 weeks, and George is playing well in a table topping, unbeaten team, I don't quite understand the logic.
Apart from last weekend of course. When he played.
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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by 4071 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:39 pm

Roly wrote:
northerntiger wrote:Odd if so, given that he has been quoted that he would pick his 1st 15, then pick the captain from them. Given that Hartley has not played for 6 weeks, and George is playing well in a table topping, unbeaten team, I don't quite understand the logic.
Apart from last weekend of course. When he played.
And two weeks before that, when he came off the bench. And the week before that when he started.

Three appearances - two starts - in the last four weeks.



The same at Tom Youngs, in fact.

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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by Chobbsy » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:42 pm

rocktop51 wrote:Worst fears look as though they are to be confirmed

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/35366191

Oh well !!

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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by ellis9 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:09 pm

Northerntiger, Saracens are not unbeaten, Quins beat them! :smt023

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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by MurphysLaw » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:08 pm

Yes, he played for 57 minutes against Glasgow on Sunday. He was pretty average in a poor game, and even after allowing for the corrections to nt's post, his point still stands, imo.
By most observers opinions Jones would not be selecting on form.
George has been very good this season; and even many of our Saintly friends consider Hartley as second choice to Haywood to at the moment. On Sunday when he came on, Haywood made a nuisance of himself, and took a punch which resulted in a decisive yellow card.

Still, I suppose he has another game to 'earn' his selection.

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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by LittleBigG » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:05 pm

MurphysLaw wrote:Still, I suppose he has another game to 'earn' his selection.
More like he has another game to cock it up and get banned; Ashton managed it quite well :smt005

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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by northerntiger » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:24 pm

Fair points. I made a couple of sweeping statements which were wildly inaccurate.

But my point still stands. Hartley is not the form hooker in the league, so under Jones criteria he should not be captain.

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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by Isambard » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:38 pm

Nor will he. Jones is playing with the media and why not, many of them are arrogant sheiz stirrers.

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Re: Captain Hartley

Post by Big Dai » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:37 pm

I'm supporting Wales! Apologies to Ben, Manu and Dan.
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