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BIttySmalls
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England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by BIttySmalls » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:09 pm

Didn't expect that.

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England Squad

Post by Maidman » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:10 pm

Tom Youngs dropped?!

(According to BBC)

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Re: England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by Jon » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:10 pm

YBY, Manu and Cole in.

That is a horrific decision. Hartley included, who isn't first choice at Saints? No. When was the last time he started (I know he's had concussion issues).

Gutted for OTY but their loss is our gain over this period. He should be in the EPS. No question.

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Re: England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by longlivethecrumbie » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:11 pm

BIttySmalls wrote:Didn't expect that.
Me neither, but their loss is our gain I suppose. Gutted for OTY though

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Re: England Squad

Post by loretta » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:11 pm

Forwards: Josh Beaumont (Sale Sharks), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Jack Clifford (Harlequins), Jamie George (Saracens), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), James Haskell (Wasps), Paul Hill (Northampton Saints), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Matt Kvesic (Gloucester Rugby), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Matt Mullan (Wasps), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins), Henry Thomas (Bath Rugby), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens)

Chris Ashton (Saracens), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Danny Care (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Ollie Devoto (Bath Rugby), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Bath Rugby), Alex Goode (Saracens), Sam Hill (Exeter Chiefs), Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby), Marland Yarde (Harlequins), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)
I find your lack of faith......disturbing.

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Re: England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by catflap » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:11 pm

Good God, are we really that blessed with good Hookers? I had some hope Jones might make some decent selections but this is farcical.

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Re: England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by BIttySmalls » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:12 pm

Jon wrote:YBY, Manu and Cole in.

That is a horrific decision. Hartley included, who isn't first choice at Saints? No. When was the last time he started (I know he's had concussion issues).

Gutted for OTY but their loss is our gain over this period. He should be in the EPS. No question.
Totally agree. Happy to keep OTY with us but gutted for him.

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Re: England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by JackFlashJonny » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:12 pm

Forwards
Josh Beaumont (Sale Sharks)
Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)

Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs)

Jack Clifford (Harlequins)
Jamie George (Saracens)
Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints)
James Haskell (Wasps)
Paul Hill (Northampton Saints)
Maro Itoje (Saracens)

George Kruis (Saracens)

Matt Kvesic (Gloucester Rugby) *injury replacement for Dave Ewers (Exeter Chiefs)

Joe Launchbury (Wasps)

Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints)
Joe Marler (Harlequins)
Matt Mullan (Wasps)
Chris Robshaw (Harlequins)

Henry Thomas (Bath Rugby) *injury replacement for Kieran Brookes (Northampton Saints)
Billy Vunipola (Saracens)

Mako Vunipola (Saracens)

Backs
Chris Ashton (Saracens)

Mike Brown (Harlequins)
Danny Care (Harlequins)

Elliot Daly (Wasps)

Ollie Devoto (Bath Rugby) *injury replacement for Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers)
Owen Farrell (Saracens)
George Ford (Bath Rugby)
Alex Goode (Saracens)
Sam Hill (Exeter Chiefs) *injury replacement for Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs)

Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby)
Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs)

Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby)
Marland Yarde (Harlequins)
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

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Re: England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by JackFlashJonny » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:14 pm

Did not see OTY being dropped...he is a phenomenon around the park really feel for him...

Youth seems to be key with this squad can't see us anywhere near the top of the six nations but building for the future..

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Re: England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by BIttySmalls » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:14 pm

I think Lawes, Hartley and Marler are lucky to be in there.

Surprised Fraser isn't in.

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Re: England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by daktari » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:17 pm

That's insane - how can you pick Hartley when he's not first choice at his club and hasn't played for weeks??
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Re: England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by piebaps » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:20 pm

If you want him to be captain you have to include him..................
Pieus et bapus

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Re: England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by jonlin » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:22 pm

If Jones is to have Hartley as his captain, he has no option but to leave the countries best hooker out of his squad. Hartley now becomes first choice hooker.

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Re: England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by CitizenSmiff » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:23 pm

Gutted for Tom, Jones must really rate the 20 minutes Jamie George puts in week in week out for his club. I'm going to wait till after the 6N to formulate an opinion but there's definitely a whiff of the experimental about this squad.

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Re: England Squad - OTY Dropped !!!!!

Post by MrG » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:23 pm

I can only think he has dropped OTY because of the public statement he made about striking for the ball. Jones likes his hookers to hook. Personally I would have gone for George and OTY and left Dullan at Stains.

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