This. It's amazing that there are people that don't get it.tigerburnie wrote:Squad rotation is something we have not seen for a long time, mainly due to injuries, but if we are to compete effectively on all fronts and manage our players health and fitness, then rotation seems to be the best tool. I would rather we rotate some players than have them not fit to play, especially with a difficult trip to France next week.
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Well, we can either discuss the merits of it now, or after the inevitable fact. Either way, its quite possibly worthy of discussion.Iain wrote:How can you possibly moan about something that hasn't happened yet, based on a selection that is also yet to happen!!?? Are you Nostradamus, or merely just miserable all the time!? How can you possibly have anything to be miserable about in this Champions Cup campaign??Roly wrote:I'm calm, calm as can be. I'm merely getting disappointed in advance for what will almost certainly be a squad rotation for what is perceived by many to be an 'easy' match.Iain wrote:Perhaps Roly, but it's a bit much to moan about it before it's happened! The team hasn't even been named yet! You'll give yourself a stroke if you don't calm down.
5 Points is a 'must' against Treviso, however, I fear the club will settle for 4.
I hope not.
“It is no use saying, ‘We are doing our best.’ You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.” Sir Winston Churchill.
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Quoted and noted.Roly wrote:
Well, we can either discuss the merits of it now, or after the inevitable fact. Either way, its quite possibly worthy of discussion.
You won't be averse to me bringing this up when we win by a bonus point then?
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If the squad is rotated significantly, and win with a bonus point, you're welcome to remind me.Iain wrote:Quoted and noted.Roly wrote:
Well, we can either discuss the merits of it now, or after the inevitable fact. Either way, its quite possibly worthy of discussion.
You won't be averse to me bringing this up when we win by a bonus point then?
Right now, its much more interesting watching Noddy wet his pants over Eddie Jones' squad selection on the other article.
“It is no use saying, ‘We are doing our best.’ You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.” Sir Winston Churchill.
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Now this I am in agreement with. Noddy is generally amusing but this is good even for him.Roly wrote:If the squad is rotated significantly, and win with a bonus point, you're welcome to remind me.Iain wrote:Quoted and noted.Roly wrote:
Well, we can either discuss the merits of it now, or after the inevitable fact. Either way, its quite possibly worthy of discussion.
You won't be averse to me bringing this up when we win by a bonus point then?
Right now, its much more interesting watching Noddy wet his pants over Eddie Jones' squad selection on the other article.
And I look forward to coming back with a "told you so", which I know you will accept with good grace and in the spirit it was intended
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Actually, If a 5 point win is gained - then I wont mind.
“It is no use saying, ‘We are doing our best.’ You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.” Sir Winston Churchill.
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Excellent!
Although I've just allowed you to manufacture a win-win situation. Blast!
Although I've just allowed you to manufacture a win-win situation. Blast!
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Too easy, way toooo easy...Iain wrote:Excellent!
Although I've just allowed you to manufacture a win-win situation. Blast!
“It is no use saying, ‘We are doing our best.’ You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.” Sir Winston Churchill.
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Rotation is essential but it doesn't have to be done en masse. Some people think we either put out our A or B team but the top teams change only a couple at a time and after a while every player can step in and not change how the team plays. Saracens are probably the best team at this. Little and often is the key and we now have the squad to do this.
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Now that Mullipola is back fit and has been added to the European squad may I suggest the following team for this Saturday:
Forwards, Mullipola, T Youngs, Balmain, De Chaves, Kitchener, Croft, McCaffrey and Pearce.
Backs: Veianu, Goneva, Tait, Smith, Thompstone, Burns, B Youngs.
Subs: Thacker, Ayerza, Cole, Barrow, Crane, Harrison, Bell, Tuilagi.
Forwards, Mullipola, T Youngs, Balmain, De Chaves, Kitchener, Croft, McCaffrey and Pearce.
Backs: Veianu, Goneva, Tait, Smith, Thompstone, Burns, B Youngs.
Subs: Thacker, Ayerza, Cole, Barrow, Crane, Harrison, Bell, Tuilagi.
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Roly: "Oh, I've been rumbled, quick, change the subject".Roly wrote:Not necessary?.... So, let me get this straight. If Tigers don't get 5 points, at home, verses the worst club in the group (and the Pro 12), you wouldn't be disappointed?Cagey Tiger wrote:Getting the doom in earlyRoly wrote:You have to think that despite getting several scares from group 'whipping boys' in the Heineken Cup (as was) in previous years and despite getting handed their back sides on a plate v Saracens, the squad will be rotated again for the upcoming fixture and four points will be taken instead of the absolutely necessary five.
As for "absolutely necessary five"...
Firstly that is your opinion, which you are entitled to, not fact, as your choice of words implies.
Secondly, "absolutely necessary" for what?
Thirdly, regardless of what, it depends on other results. If SF do not win in Munster (50/50?) or draw with a TBP, 4 points will see us top the group regardless. To get a home quarter depends on so many other results it's not worth speculating about. However as Wasps and Clermont are top of their groups with 14 points, 4 points against Treviso would put us on 22. If either lose one match, we would be in a strong position to get more points than the winners of their groups.
Right....
Just a quick reminder as the point under discussion was that you deemed 5 points to be absolutely necessary. I just pointed out that your opinion had a big flaw in it.
My happiness or otherwise was not under discussion and is irrelevant as far as this is concerned.
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It is absolutely necessary, because Treviso are not that good. Anything less than 5 points would be a serious concern.
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Peddling the same flawed opinion again. A 'must'? Why are they a' must'? Very desirable but, based on current standings the only reasons that I can see the extra point being a must is the desire to get maximum points from our remaining games. Depending on other results, whether we get 4 or 5 points could be irrelevant.Roly wrote:I'm calm, calm as can be. I'm merely getting disappointed in advance for what will almost certainly be a squad rotation for what is perceived by many to be an 'easy' match.Iain wrote:Perhaps Roly, but it's a bit much to moan about it before it's happened! The team hasn't even been named yet! You'll give yourself a stroke if you don't calm down.
5 Points is a 'must' against Treviso, however, I fear the club will settle for 4.
I hope not.
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Peddling flawed opinion? The only flaw is that you consider my differing opinion to be flawed.Cagey Tiger wrote:Peddling the same flawed opinion again. A 'must'? Why are they a' must'? Very desirable but, based on current standings the only reasons that I can see the extra point being a must is the desire to get maximum points from our remaining games. Depending on other results, whether we get 4 or 5 points could be irrelevant.Roly wrote:I'm calm, calm as can be. I'm merely getting disappointed in advance for what will almost certainly be a squad rotation for what is perceived by many to be an 'easy' match.Iain wrote:Perhaps Roly, but it's a bit much to moan about it before it's happened! The team hasn't even been named yet! You'll give yourself a stroke if you don't calm down.
5 Points is a 'must' against Treviso, however, I fear the club will settle for 4.
I hope not.
In my opinion, it a must 5 points because anything less against Treviso, at home, would be concerning. Maximum points is a must if you want to eliminate the fact that not doing so 'could be irrelevant'.
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No it isn't. See my previous posts, which you not given any factual disagreement with.Roly wrote:It is absolutely necessary
Agreed. I'm not sure of my Latin, but I think think this is a non sequitur. The bit before the "because" is not related to the bit after it.Roly wrote:because Treviso are sheeite. Anything less than 5 points would be a serious concern.