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Strength in depth

Post by Iain » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:36 am

15. Mat Tait
14. Peter Betham
13. Manu Tuilagi
12. Jean de Villiers
11. Vereniki Goneva
10. Freddie Burns
9. Ben Youngs
1. Marcos Ayerza
2. Tom Youngs
3. Dan Cole
4. Ed Slater
5. Graham Kitchener
6. Tom Croft
7. Brendan O'Connor
8. Laurence Pearce



15. Tommy Bell
14. Gonzalo Camacho
13. George Catchpole
12. Sermaia Bai
11. Adam Thompstone
10. Owen Williams
9. Jono Kitto
1. Logovi'i Mulipola
2. Leonardo Ghiraldini
3. Fraser Balmain
4. Mike Fitzgerald
5. Sebastian de Chaves
6. Mike Williams
7. Lachlan McCaffrey
8. Jordan Crane

You could probably even make a quality third XV, especially as I still haven't included the likes of Sam Harrison, Opeti Fonua, Lekusa Veainu etc.

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Re: Strength in depth

Post by JackFlashJonny » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:39 am

This really is the most excited I have been about a season for years..

Great squad, as you say great strength in depth and a kiwi complementing Cockers at the helm... :smt003

If only the did they away shirt in classic I would completely satisfied all round :smt023

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Re: Strength in depth

Post by floridaboy » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:05 am

Iain wrote:15. Mat Tait
14. Peter Betham
13. Manu Tuilagi
12. Jean de Villiers
11. Vereniki Goneva
10. Freddie Burns
9. Ben Youngs
1. Marcos Ayerza
2. Tom Youngs
3. Dan Cole
4. Ed Slater
5. Graham Kitchener
6. Tom Croft
7. Brendan O'Connor
8. Laurence Pearce



15. Tommy Bell
14. Gonzalo Camacho
13. George Catchpole
12. Sermaia Bai
11. Adam Thompstone
10. Owen Williams
9. Jono Kitto
1. Logovi'i Mulipola
2. Leonardo Ghiraldini
3. Fraser Balmain
4. Mike Fitzgerald
5. Sebastian de Chaves
6. Mike Williams
7. Lachlan McCaffrey
8. Jordan Crane

You could probably even make a quality third XV, especially as I still haven't included the likes of Sam Harrison, Opeti Fonua, Lekusa Veainu etc.
This does put things in some form of order, if we can get these guys on the pitch I for one will be very excited. Bring on Sunday, bring on the season, watch out.......here we go again !

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Re: Strength in depth

Post by JackFlashJonny » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:11 am

When you look at that squad it really seems we have used the new extra money wisely investing in a very good squad of 30+ players of real quality...

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Re: Strength in depth

Post by FrontRowUnionMember » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:56 am

1. Ricardo Brugnara
2. Harry Thacker
3. Tiz Pasqualli
4. Dom Barrow
5. Joe Maksymiw
6. Charlie Beckett
7. Will Owen
8. Opeti Fonua
9. Sam Harrison
10. Olly Bryant
11. Telusa Veainu
12. Jack Roberts
13. Matt Smith
14. Christian Loamanu
15. Niall Morris

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Re: Strength in depth

Post by loretta » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:11 am

With this sort of depth, is it time to do some serious squad rotation in the manner of Pat Howard? I know about playing settled combinations and the disruption in consistency that injuries have caused us in the past, but he tried it, and we were one game off the perfect season. Perhaps rotating pods of players, centre or half back combinations for example, to suit the opposition. Keep the guys fit and keen. Players don't need to play all the games in a season - far from it.
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Re: Strength in depth

Post by Skin_and_Muscle » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:13 pm

loretta wrote:With this sort of depth, is it time to do some serious squad rotation in the manner of Pat Howard? I know about playing settled combinations and the disruption in consistency that injuries have caused us in the past, but he tried it, and we were one game off the perfect season. Perhaps rotating pods of players, centre or half back combinations for example, to suit the opposition. Keep the guys fit and keen. Players don't need to play all the games in a season - far from it.
This would depend on the success Mauger has in cohering the squad, getting them to 'buy into a particular coaching style/philosophy' (where's the vomit smiley when you need it?!). I have no doubt that this will happen. It remains to be seen exactly when, of course, but the squad is cause for optimism.
Progress requires that the fears of both sides be more fully aired, not that one side wins.

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Re: Strength in depth

Post by Iain » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:36 pm

Rotation needn't be for resting your "best" players as I'm not sure there is necessarily a best XV anyway. Play horses for courses.

For example at fly half, Williams would play if the game was played in testing conditions where there is a need to play territory and peg the opposition back, whereas Burns is best in games against sides where games become a little more broken and he can find space to run through.

You might choose better defensive wingers where the pitch is heavier, such as Smith or Thompstone, whereas on harder tracks Goneva or Camacho would be a good shout.

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Re: Strength in depth

Post by Rykard » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:38 pm

i think it said on RL last night there are 28 games on the trot?

we will need some sort of coherent rotation system if we're going to get through the season. It will be v. interesting to see how some of the other 'top' teams with smaller squads go,
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Re: Strength in depth

Post by loretta » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:42 pm

Especially since many recruits are coming from SH, therefore not accustomed to such an attritional season.

With a smaller squad, it could well be a case of live fast, die young.
All I said was ........

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Re: Strength in depth

Post by Cagey Tiger » Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:31 pm

loretta wrote:Especially since many recruits are coming from SH, therefore not accustomed to such an attritional season.

With a smaller squad, it could well be a case of live fast, die young.
Die young? What's the Wasps head coach got to do with it? :smt002

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Re: Strength in depth

Post by The Boy Dave » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:38 pm

I'm going to upset a few and say that there are a large amount of foriegn players.
I also don't like this idea of players being English qualified under residency rules as it's ripping the heart out of English rugby.
See what it means to other nationalities to represent their nation, tears in their eyes come anthem time and so on.
I was told by a mate that as a Tigers fan I had no right to comment on England, looking at that squad it's becoming more difficult to argue too much with that.
It's foriegn dominated and the English quality is getting lesser and older.
I don't mind high quality of JDV's type and there are a couple of others not seen yet that I think will be great signings, but it's a sorry state for English rugby when one of it's premier clubs is so reliant on imports.
Not that it's not a good looking squad though, it clearly is.
I don't rate most of the younger players at all so I fully understand why this has been required and I'm not blaming coaches as it's their job to put the best squad together they possibly can, they seem to have done a good job on paper.
I can't say that I am as emotionally attached to Tigers as an Englishman as I once was though, likewise with England containing so few Tigers.
Cheery chappy

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Re: Strength in depth

Post by Bill W (2) » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:52 pm

Tigers are the PITS! Bring on the PITS TOP GIRLS!!!

:smt026 :smt026 :smt026
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Re: Strength in depth

Post by The Boy Dave » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:58 pm

Tigers are the PITS! Bring on the PITS TOP GIRLS!!!
You will have to settle for Lichfield Ladies!
:smt007
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Re: Strength in depth

Post by Bill W (2) » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:03 pm

The Boy Dave wrote:
Tigers are the PITS! Bring on the PITS TOP GIRLS!!!
You will have to settle for Lichfield Ladies!
:smt007
If needs must! Better than the big boot any day!!

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