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Neil Back

Post by ellis9 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:53 pm

Can anyone explain this to me? Has something happened between Neil Back and Tigers? He seems to have the occasional dig at the club. He is obviously entitled to his opinion it it seems strange. His latest statement was when someone on Twitter asked him why the Tigers shop was not selling his new book. His reply was "You'll need to ask them, I thought 18 years as player and coach meant something".

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Re: Neil Back

Post by physiodan » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:18 pm

I believe, but am happy to be corrected, that he fell out with the club when he did not get the big job which he thought he deserved. Instead that role went to Heyneke Meyer and then Cockers where it has stayed since.

I believe he left under a cloud and that was that! real shame

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Re: Neil Back

Post by Bundy » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:00 pm

Are ex-players books routinely stocked in the club shop? Just wondering if this is standard practice or an exception?

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Re: Neil Back

Post by tigercaspian » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:26 pm

Would have thought any club in any sport would stock its ex-players books if they had remained on good or at least speaking terms.
Physiodan comments lead me to conclude that there must have been a total and irrepairable breakdown between club and ex-player which is sad for a great club and a club great.
Out of interest,did Back think he should have been given the job both when Loffreda took over and then Meyer ?

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Re: Neil Back

Post by Coops » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:24 pm

tigercaspian wrote:Would have thought any club in any sport would stock its ex-players books if they had remained on good or at least speaking terms.
Physiodan comments lead me to conclude that there must have been a total and irrepairable breakdown between club and ex-player which is sad for a great club and a club great.
Out of interest,did Back think he should have been given the job both when Loffreda took over and then Meyer ?

I would have thought the other way, in that the club should want to stay impartial and therefore stock no ex player merchandise irrespective.

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Re: Neil Back

Post by darganj » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:30 pm

I don't really get Neil Back's motives at the moment.

A prime example is when he was slating Robshaw for not being in his top 5 number 7s. It was so pathetic, he didn't even say who he would pick instead. It was just a rant about all of Robshaw's supposed inadequacies. How is that going to help anyone? If you are going to criticise, offer a solution or an alternative.

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Re: Neil Back

Post by floridaboy » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:40 pm

darganj wrote:I don't really get Neil Back's motives at the moment.

A prime example is when he was slating Robshaw for not being in his top 5 number 7s. It was so pathetic, he didn't even say who he would pick instead. It was just a rant about all of Robshaw's supposed inadequacies. How is that going to help anyone? If you are going to criticise, offer a solution or an alternative.
Im afraid that Mr Back is becoming the Geoff Boycott of the rugby world, you know, it was better in my day etc. I too was led to understand that Back was really upset that he was not given the top job on the couple of occasions it became available, really sad, great player a real one off.

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Re: Neil Back

Post by The Boy Dave » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:42 pm

I don't really get Neil Back's motives at the moment.

A prime example is when he was slating Robshaw for not being in his top 5 number 7s. It was so pathetic, he didn't even say who he would pick instead. It was just a rant about all of Robshaw's supposed inadequacies. How is that going to help anyone? If you are going to criticise, offer a solution or an alternative.
Motive is probably book sales which is no different to any sporting book IMO.

To be fair Robshaw would not be in my top 100 opensides in world rugby.
What is the point in offering an alternative if they have been cut from the squad already?
The only option would be to talk about Clark and he obviously didn't go there.
As a former openside it's something the media would ask him and he might know about.
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Re: Neil Back

Post by johnthegriff » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:42 pm

Tiger's shop (contracted out to Kitbag) is currently very tight for space as it is also being used for ticket sales. Kitbag like any retail establishment will allocate space based on expected sales/profits; it is possible that they see more profit per foot from sales of their own purchased products, shirts, jackets etc' than they would by offering Neil's book.

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Re: Neil Back

Post by weartheroserugby » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:58 pm

I don't personally see why Tigers won't stock the book, it's a shame because it's worth a read and he was at the club for such a long time. I just got my copy from Amazon anyway - price is really competitive on there and there's the Kindle version too :smt023

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Death-Rugby ... 1785310542

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Re: Neil Back

Post by johns » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:58 pm

The shop is own and run by Kitbag, they decide what they sell

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Re: Neil Back

Post by RagingBull » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:05 pm

weartheroserugby wrote:I don't personally see why Tigers won't stock the book, it's a shame because it's worth a read and he was at the club for such a long time. I just got my copy from Amazon anyway - price is really competitive on there and there's the Kindle version too :smt023

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Death-Rugby ... 1785310542
Are you Neil Back?

As said pretty sure the store is run separately, can't think of another tiger book on sale there (other than matts hampsons book).

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Re: Neil Back

Post by WhitecapTiger » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:21 pm

RagingBull wrote:As said pretty sure the store is run separately, can't think of another tiger book on sale there (other than matts hampsons book).
Leon Lloyd's book is in the online store......think I also saw copies in the actual shop but can't recall for sure

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Re: Neil Back

Post by Bill W (2) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:38 pm

As a player Neil Back was superb. Brilliant.

I was privaleged to carry his daughter on my shoulders when walking back to the hotel in Sydney in 2003.

As a coach he was less than loyal to his DoR's. So a move to Leeds was engineered. Where he was less than loyal to Andy Keys. And the rest is history.

Sales of his book through the (reduced size run by Kitbag)Tigers shop would be unlikely to be astronomic. Likely cheaper through Amazon anyway.
Still keeping the faith!

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Re: Neil Back

Post by Chobbsy » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:31 am

ellis9 wrote:Can anyone explain this to me? Has something happened between Neil Back and Tigers? He seems to have the occasional dig at the club. He is obviously entitled to his opinion it it seems strange. His latest statement was when someone on Twitter asked him why the Tigers shop was not selling his new book. His reply was "You'll need to ask them, I thought 18 years as player and coach meant something".
I don't believe his issue is with the club, more like Cockers
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