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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by Skin_and_Muscle » Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:02 pm

This last year has demonstrated that a secured centre pairing is key to a decent attack. In some ways, it doesn't matter who is playing there; we did fairly well before Manu came along, for instance, and I think Allen has been as much, if not more, of a loss this season.

Next season I want a partnership that will get a run of games, whether that's:

Allen/Tuilagi
Allen/Tait
A.N.Other/Tuilagi
A.N.Other/Tait
Tuilagi/Tait
Tuilagi/Catchpole
Roberts/Catchpole

etc.
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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by Noddy555 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:34 am

I find myself agreeing with you Skin and Muscle but why not give Catchpole and Tait a run at 12 & 13 for a short time. They both possess good rugby brains and a fair amount of pace. I would have Tommy Bell at Fullback to cover for the injured Niall Morris and the added bonus of that is Bell's kicking ability should Freddie Burns fail yet again in that department.

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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by Doghashadhisday » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:05 pm

Noddy555 wrote:I find myself agreeing with you Skin and Muscle but why not give Catchpole and Tait a run at 12 & 13 for a short time. They both possess good rugby brains and a fair amount of pace. I would have Tommy Bell at Fullback to cover for the injured Niall Morris and the added bonus of that is Bell's kicking ability should Freddie Burns fail yet again in that department.
But Catchpole and Tait are both 13's. It would be Roberts and Catchpole or Roberts and Tait. Dint we try Catchpole and Tait and Catchpole was rather absent!

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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by Noddy555 » Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:45 am

Doghashadhisday I don't agree centres should be able to play both positions 12 & 13 i.e. inside and outside centre. You cannot afford to specialise in any one position these days or you will severely limit your selection options. Just like a good full back should be able to play on the wing or even at fly half. There is only really one decision that a player should make i.e. whether to be a back or a forward, and I have known quite a few flankers over the years who would even dispute that.

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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by johnthegriff » Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:39 pm

Will Greenwood was an excellent 12 but not so good as a 13, each position on a rugby pitch requires certain skills lucky and rare are those that possess all the skills necessary to play adequately in all backs positions or even two or three of them. Even with the skills it may be that a player has a preference for one position over another. Tim Stimpson was a superb fullback but did not like, and was not so good at playing on the wing, Geordan Murphy was excellent in both positions.
Manu when fit is a world class centre and he can and does pass he could be a 12 or a 13 but the game plan would have to adapt to his strengths it would be unwise to give him a second kicker role.

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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by Noddy555 » Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:44 am

The only rider I would add to my previous post is of course the specialist position of Hooker. But even in the forwards good props and flankers can play either open or blind side positions.

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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by L Smith » Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:14 pm

Noddy555 wrote:The only rider I would add to my previous post is of course the specialist position of Hooker. But even in the forwards good props and flankers can play either open or blind side positions.
...when it suits them (Corbisiero) :smt045
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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by Cagey Tiger » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:43 pm

Should the topic title be amended to include Toulouse? :smt001

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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by RagingBull » Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:06 pm

If you want him next season you will prob have to pay a record transfer fee.

Mind you French press is worse than the English press for rumours.

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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by L Smith » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:30 pm

RagingBull wrote:
If you want him next season you will prob have to pay a record transfer fee.

Mind you French press is worse than the English press for rumours.
Sounds like the Toulousain board are clutching at straws in the transfer market and getting themselves linked to big names in order to appease their fans.
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Post by InGuinnessVeritas » Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:24 pm

For those of you who don't read French, here's a piece from Planet Rugby.

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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by RagingBull » Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:59 pm

Cockerill now on record saying Leicester won't sell him and are in advance talks with him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... ilagi.html

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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by Doghashadhisday » Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:52 pm

RagingBull wrote:Cockerill now on record saying Leicester won't sell him and are in advance talks with him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... ilagi.html
That's Manu as good as sold then :smt003

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Re: Manu Tuilagi to Saracens!

Post by DickyP » Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:11 pm

Noddy555 wrote:I find myself agreeing with you Skin and Muscle but why not give Catchpole and Tait a run at 12 & 13 for a short time. They both possess good rugby brains and a fair amount of pace. I would have Tommy Bell at Fullback to cover for the injured Niall Morris and the added bonus of that is Bell's kicking ability should Freddie Burns fail yet again in that department.
Only reason I can think of is that Catchpole is definitely a 13 rather than a 12 (despite one appearance there last season): probably has the best outside break we've had at WR since Ollie Smith at his best..
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