The Armitage Question rumbles on

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The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by jgriffin » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:53 pm

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Courtesy of Australia, of course. Once again the two camps are irreconcilable, pick the best team possible, pick the best team from the AP or do it the Lancaster way and pick people you like regardless of form.
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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by Sajerj » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:08 pm

Seems he was not deemed good enough for the European semi final against Leinster.

Six nations England went with form. Haskell, Nowell, Joseph, Ford, Watson, Ben Youngs. Burelll is probably the only one to argue about. Lawes and Parling returned when they proved form and fitness.

I have no clue why they don't pick Armitage regardless as he moved to Toulon before the rule came about. That certainly should be enough circumstance to be exempt.

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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by RagingBull » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:34 pm

No Armitage what so ever.

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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by Mr Bean » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:44 pm

The person who used to do the PA announcements down in Bedford is moving into the world of rugby journalism. He put this articlof his on Twitter this week and I think it shows why it is good that Lancaster does not pick Armitage as once something has been opened it is much harder to close it.
https://samrobertsrugby.wordpress.com/2 ... to-listen/

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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by L Smith » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:12 pm

Mr Bean wrote:The person who used to do the PA announcements down in Bedford is moving into the world of rugby journalism. He put this articlof his on Twitter this week and I think it shows why it is good that Lancaster does not pick Armitage as once something has been opened it is much harder to close it.
https://samrobertsrugby.wordpress.com/2 ... to-listen/
Good article. Good on Lancaster. I'm hugely impressed by the way that the RFU and Premier League Rugby manage their conflicts of interest. We should be the envy of all other domestic leagues.
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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by sjm » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:43 pm

No way should he play for England just a couple of points 1st who would you drop Robshaw (capt), Wood, or Vunipola? and the second point being that I think he has just signed a new contract for Toulon

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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by jgriffin » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:38 pm

We will see by November just how much the envy of others countries etc we are. My Saint-in-law has money on england not getting out of the pool; a bit cynical, as I think they'll qualify second and then get spanked in the KO stage.
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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by Bill W (2) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:42 pm

IMHO the WC will not be lost through the non selection of Armitage as an "exceptional circumstance". It is more likely to be lost through the selection of Faslet and Barrit though nepotism.
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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by L Smith » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:11 pm

jgriffin wrote:We will see by November just how much the envy of others countries etc we are. My Saint-in-law has money on england not getting out of the pool; a bit cynical, as I think they'll qualify second and then get spanked in the KO stage.
I haven't passed any comment pertaining to England being the envy of anyone. Just the domestic league set up.
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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by Bill W (2) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:02 pm

L Smith wrote:
jgriffin wrote:We will see by November just how much the envy of others countries etc we are. My Saint-in-law has money on england not getting out of the pool; a bit cynical, as I think they'll qualify second and then get spanked in the KO stage.
I haven't passed any comment pertaining to England being the envy of anyone. Just the domestic league set up.
Very valid comment L. Smith. Both Northern and Southern Hemisphere Nations might well be in envy of English Rugby's relationship between its Clubs and Union.
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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by drc_007 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:12 pm

Steffon Armitage was on the longlist for European player of the year in 2013, won it in 2014 and is on the shortlist in 2015.

Can't help but feel it is a shame that we probably won't see him at the RWC, it ought to be the stage for all the best players in the world to be seen in action.

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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by Bill W (2) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:14 pm

drc_007 wrote: it ought to be the stage for all the best players in the world to be seen in action.
Unless they are New Zealanders, until recently Australians, Welsh (questionably) or English.
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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by Will S » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:49 pm

I wonder if they could change the rule so that foreign based players over 29 years old could be considered for national selection for World Cups only. This means that young English talent would be required to stay in the domestic league and for international games like AI's and 6N's English based players would get priority. If however you were in a WC year then players like Geoff Parling could opt to do his last contract in France to top up the pension knowing that he would still be eligible for this one off tournament. It is sort of a loyalty system that works both ways. Give your best playing days in the English league and the national team won't discount you if you have a few years in the sun at the end of your career. Just a thought.

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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by Bowden Tiger » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:58 pm

Has anyone heard the rumour that a certain Mr Armitage is coming back to England as a Marquee signing?
Yesterday at a local mini rugby match, several people were talking about it, but I thought that he had signed a 2 year contract extension at Toulon.

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Re: The Armitage Question rumbles on

Post by mol2 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:08 pm

If picking on form wouldn't Kvesic be ahead of Armitage at the present time?

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