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Sorry to see anyone leave when the job is not complete, but if that is the decision of the board, then I accept that and wish Paul well for the future.
"If you want entertainment, go to the theatre," says Edinburgh head coach Richard Cockerill. "Rugby players play the game to win.15/1/21.
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Think this is a case of too many cooks and MB has been deemed surplus. There clearly needs to be more clarity of thought and it seems those of the newly appointed defence coach and GM have prevailed.
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Totally agree and wish him well.tigerburnie wrote:Sorry to see anyone leave when the job is not complete, but if that is the decision of the board, then I accept that and wish Paul well for the future.
Tigers do seem to have the knack of migrating players who were excellent as players and "looking after them" by making them coaches. Look at MJ with the England setup, case in point that it doesn't always work.
Geordy, Blaze, and Burke were all great players but doesn't automatically make them great coaches.
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I suspect an element of caution about putting recently retired players in a high level role would not go amiss.
Finding roles for retired players is to be applauded but perhaps at a development level to gain experience may be wiser?
Finding roles for retired players is to be applauded but perhaps at a development level to gain experience may be wiser?
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In someways if Paul Burke left of his own accord it is worse for us than if he was ousted.
I'm in agreement with the unoffy that this is the second phase of trying to improve the team through coaching, the first being RCs agreement that he needed a specialist defence coach.
It potentially looks a very strong statement that for now the club remain behind Cockers
However, it would also suggest that the board aren't happy and that the clocks ticking
I'm in agreement with the unoffy that this is the second phase of trying to improve the team through coaching, the first being RCs agreement that he needed a specialist defence coach.
It potentially looks a very strong statement that for now the club remain behind Cockers
However, it would also suggest that the board aren't happy and that the clocks ticking
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Oh dear, the classic "Fall GuY".
Does anyone really believe that he was in anyway responsible to blame for the current malaise?
Disgraceful way to slope shoulders.
Does anyone really believe that he was in anyway responsible to blame for the current malaise?
Disgraceful way to slope shoulders.
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What knowledge do you have that Paul Burke was made a "fall guy"? I can see nothing anywhere to confirm your statement, can you give us a link to your source?Smudge wrote:Oh dear, the classic "Fall GuY".
Does anyone really believe that he was in anyway responsible to blame for the current malaise?
Disgraceful way to slope shoulders.
"If you want entertainment, go to the theatre," says Edinburgh head coach Richard Cockerill. "Rugby players play the game to win.15/1/21.
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In reply to earlier poster, if i remember correctly, Tony Russ was the DOR brought in to coach the flat ball method, ABs were revolutionary in that style and eveyone rushed to follow, but they are so much better offlloading flat into space where a man is running. Tigers flat ball is usually man and ball, no wonder we drop the ball so often, as the receiver is hit at the same time as he receives the ball. We do not offload into space or at pace, and almost never back inside to a support runner. We also run across the pitch too often, starting with SH, rather than forward, ending with us running out of width.
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What a daft reply,it is a fair assumption and the conclusion many have come to.As if the club would come out and make such a statement.Your blind faith in everything Tigers is admirable but people are allowed to question the clubs actions.By the way whose choice was Paul Burke, I wonder if RC now believes he made a mistake or am I not allowed to even suggest that as I have no link that will confirm it.tigerburnie wrote:What knowledge do you have that Paul Burke was made a "fall guy"? I can see nothing anywhere to confirm your statement, can you give us a link to your source?Smudge wrote:Oh dear, the classic "Fall GuY".
Does anyone really believe that he was in anyway responsible to blame for the current malaise?
Disgraceful way to slope shoulders.
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One of the proverbial monkey's has gone. Serious doubts remain about the organ grinder. Something had to change and I applaud any decision to try and halt the decline that so many on here seem to be in denial about.
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There's nothing daft in anyone's opinion when we have no facts to either prove or disprove. I ask a simple question and I will ask it again, who says Paul Burke was made a "fall guy", if there's proof then fine. It has been suggested elsewhere that maybe, just maybe, Paul Burke made the decision himself. Unless either the club or the individual actually tells us, then it's all conjecture and I would say that some of the comments are disingenuous to the man concerned.Ian S wrote:What a daft reply,it is a fair assumption and the conclusion many have come to.As if the club would come out and make such a statement.Your blind faith in everything Tigers is admirable but people are allowed to question the clubs actions.By the way whose choice was Paul Burke, I wonder if RC now believes he made a mistake or am I not allowed to even suggest that as I have no link that will confirm it.tigerburnie wrote:What knowledge do you have that Paul Burke was made a "fall guy"? I can see nothing anywhere to confirm your statement, can you give us a link to your source?Smudge wrote:Oh dear, the classic "Fall GuY".
Does anyone really believe that he was in anyway responsible to blame for the current malaise?
Disgraceful way to slope shoulders.
"If you want entertainment, go to the theatre," says Edinburgh head coach Richard Cockerill. "Rugby players play the game to win.15/1/21.
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I agree that the lack of information on whether PB walked or was pushed makes the arguments a piece of fiction. However, sadly, it would appear that Rugby is following football in all the worst traits it has to offer, and would indicate that the removal of playing officials during the season when a team fails to live up to expectations is become the norm ( Glos is a prime example)
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Agree 100%, flat ball is exactly for that, but MOC had them standing flat, hence taking the ball stationary (and how we all moaned for a season or more about that, or has everyone contracted amnesia?). I remember a sequence of passes on the 22 about 4 years ago, Chuter was the penultimate passer, where everyone passed in a instant before the opponent got to them - it was brilliant skill, incredibly risky, and it gained 5 metres. I have seen so many game where our defence has been carved open by ONE flat pass with a runner coming from deep at an angle.LE18 wrote:In reply to earlier poster, if i remember correctly, Tony Russ was the DOR brought in to coach the flat ball method, ABs were revolutionary in that style and eveyone rushed to follow, but they are so much better offlloading flat into space where a man is running. Tigers flat ball is usually man and ball, no wonder we drop the ball so often, as the receiver is hit at the same time as he receives the ball. We do not offload into space or at pace, and almost never back inside to a support runner. We also run across the pitch too often, starting with SH, rather than forward, ending with us running out of width.
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Check out the latest Cockers article
http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/8203- ... story.html
If you read the article he talks about there being "I will tell you more but there are certain things we need to go through before we get to that level of detail"
This implies that there have definitely been issues at the club as if Burke had just walked he would have been able to talk about it, so either pushed or given no choice but to walk
http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/8203- ... story.html
If you read the article he talks about there being "I will tell you more but there are certain things we need to go through before we get to that level of detail"
This implies that there have definitely been issues at the club as if Burke had just walked he would have been able to talk about it, so either pushed or given no choice but to walk