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Cole will hopefully be back for Novemeber in the LV cup and friendly games.
Last I heard.
Last I heard.
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when i had issues with my shoulder, the consultant said opening it up was the absolute last resort. I know i'm not a pro sportsmen but maybe they prefer to explore all other avenues first?Jimmy Skitz wrote:why are Tigers so reluctant to operate, how often do we see player X was trying to rehab, failed and then needed the op most docs would have sent him for weeks ago?
Unless there is an 80% chance or better that the rehab will work and an op won't be needed just fix the problem it's better in the long run for all concerned.
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Wow that is great news RB..I hope he can come back and reclaim his spot for the six nations building into the world cup team because once they start winning the team won't be changed much if they get on a roll..Plus thinking about him and Ayerza back in our front row brings a tear to my eye
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That assumes that the surgery is a certain fix and also assumes that the surgery is safe.Jimmy Skitz wrote:why are Tigers so reluctant to operate, how often do we see player X was trying to rehab, failed and then needed the op most docs would have sent him for weeks ago?
Unless there is an 80% chance or better that the rehab will work and an op won't be needed just fix the problem it's better in the long run for all concerned.
If I were Dan Cole I wouldn't have considered letting a knife near my spine until I'd given that 20% of recovery by rehab a good try because the surgery comes with a risk of long term disability.
Likewise with joint ops - Harry Ellis' career wasn't ended by the knee injury directly, but by the infection in his knee that complicated the op. Now his injury wasn't going to get better without surgery but if it were a different injury you could have understood the player, club and medical team being patient and giving appropriate rehab a chance before opting for surgery.
If rehab fails then all you have lost is a few weeks or months, but compared to an unnecessary operation that might end a career or worse?
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Look at Croft - recent issue is inflammation due to problems with a screw from when he had his ligaments operated on.Jimmy Skitz wrote:why are Tigers so reluctant to operate, how often do we see player X was trying to rehab, failed and then needed the op most docs would have sent him for weeks ago?
Unless there is an 80% chance or better that the rehab will work and an op won't be needed just fix the problem it's better in the long run for all concerned.
Surgery may be essential, or quicker now, but it doesn't mean it's better in the long run
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Any news on Hepetema? I didn't realise he had a long term injury!
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Manu out for 3 weeks.
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Looks like it could potentially be more than 3 too ..As an England fan I am gutted and from a Tigers perspective I really hope he can start shaking off these injuries..
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TBH I don't min if he misses the whole of November we would have had to budget that anyway.JackFlashJonny wrote:Looks like it could potentially be more than 3 too ..As an England fan I am gutted and from a Tigers perspective I really hope he can start shaking off these injuries..
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Next premiership match is not until Nov 16th, I'd let him rest until then.
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+1drc_007 wrote:Next premiership match is not until Nov 16th, I'd let him rest until then.
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Perfectly valid question, but I for one am glad they are reluctant. We may complain about many things at Tigers but I suspect we are as good as any and far better than most in our treatment of the injured. I'm sure it isn't as simple as "let's go for it and save some time"! And yes, I know that throwaway is not at all what you meant but a hasty operating policy could result in the start of a move onto a very slippery slope if the management weren't very, very careful.Jimmy Skitz wrote:why are Tigers so reluctant to operate, how often do we see player X was trying to rehab, failed and then needed the op most docs would have sent him for weeks ago?
Unless there is an 80% chance or better that the rehab will work and an op won't be needed just fix the problem it's better in the long run for all concerned.
If truth were told, when I manage to stop being totally red/white/green blinkered, Tigers doing badly is a better option than ruining the health/life of any player.
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I still think Manu is being managed well for Tigers and kept away from poor treatment by England.
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Comacho has had 3 ops on his shoulder, don't know whether he was being managed by his country at the time though.
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Not that it would affect me personally, but I'm glad that ( AFAIK ) we haven't resorted to the sort of remedial tactics that some NFL players had to put up with during the 90's and still goes on now apparently...... http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/72436 ... er-toradol (one of many articles!)DickyP wrote:Perfectly valid question, but I for one am glad they are reluctant. We may complain about many things at Tigers but I suspect we are as good as any and far better than most in our treatment of the injured. I'm sure it isn't as simple as "let's go for it and save some time"! And yes, I know that throwaway is not at all what you meant but a hasty operating policy could result in the start of a move onto a very slippery slope if the management weren't very, very careful.Jimmy Skitz wrote:why are Tigers so reluctant to operate, how often do we see player X was trying to rehab, failed and then needed the op most docs would have sent him for weeks ago?
Unless there is an 80% chance or better that the rehab will work and an op won't be needed just fix the problem it's better in the long run for all concerned.
If truth were told, when I manage to stop being totally red/white/green blinkered, Tigers doing badly is a better option than ruining the health/life of any player.