kids

[theparcelyard]

am i allowed to take my 4 year old without a ticket and sit him on my lap ?

[Old Hob]

Don't know, you need to ask the club - but why does no-one have children any more? Why are we all goats?

[Rizzo]

This information is on the Tickets link at the top of the page.

"Under 10: full season ticket and must be booked with a full paying adult season ticket holder. Subject to availability and only available in certain areas. Under 4's will not require a seat."

I would check with the ticket office if your child is actually 4 and not under 4.

[BJ.]

... but why does no-one have children any more? Why are we all goats?

It's just another Americanism that has crept across the Pond and infested our language. I took up the same issue with the Derby Telegraph when they kept referring to the six dead Philpott children as kids. I asked the paper to show some dignity towards them but the deputy editor replied claiming their use of the word 'kids' was acceptable since "it's already out there in common use".

Anyway, y'all have a nice day, you hear.

[DickyP]

Sorry but this IS NOT an Americanism - been in continual use in England for this meaning since 1690 according to the OED!

Its other allegedly 'American' usage as a verb to fool someone is almost as old.

[jgriffin]

Death Match! BJ vs Dicky P
Could sell more tickets than Wuss vs Newcastle (not difficult, though).

[DickyP]

OK so I'm nerd - but I'm a happy one.

I do get bugged by sweeping allegations - same with -ize endings being accused of being Americanisms. Old fashioned (like me) - Yes, an Americanism - No!

[h's dad]

OK so I'm nerd - but I'm a happy one.

I do get bugged by sweeping allegations - same with -ize endings being accused of being Americanisms. Old fashioned (like me) - Yes, an Americanism - No!

I would suggest that -ize has crept back into current usage from contemporary American rather than old or Oxford English.

[DickyP]

OK so I'm nerd - but I'm a happy one.

I do get bugged by sweeping allegations - same with -ize endings being accused of being Americanisms. Old fashioned (like me) - Yes, an Americanism - No!

I would suggest that -ize has crept back into current usage from contemporary American rather than old or Oxford English.

With us who learned to spell in school it never left! When I was at school -ise was was described as for "those who can't be bothered/too lazy to learn, or who wished to ape the French!"

I do, of course, still make plenty of spelling and grammar mistakes, especially when typing - fingers and brain not fully connected.

[Pellsey]

As English is derived from French and Germanic, and both French and Germanic languages use "-ise", surely it is safe to assume that this is correct? It could also be said that it is an American habit (rather than an Americanism) to create too many verbs from nouns, for which "-ise" is often used. I, for one, hate the phrase "to hospitalize". Anyway, rugby...

[old one eye]

Perhaps we should have a separate forum for the "grammer" police to bore each other to death.

[GS]

[quote="DickyP"]Sorry but this IS NOT an Americanism - been in continual use in England for this meaning since 1690 according to the OED! /quote]

How many times do we have to ask, can you give a full reference for this?

[Smudge]

The Americanization of English really gets on my wick.

They should know that the word "ass" correctly refers to a donkey. Which makes a comment
like "look at the donkey on that" seem pretty stupid.
I also hate the ingress of the word GUY. It is almost impossible to have a conversation
with a rugby player or pundit without them referring to the "GUYS".
I know I'm knocking on a bit but we always used words like chaps, blokes, fellows,etc.
Guys was strictly an American term. Strangely, they didn't adopt the female term "Dolls" to go with it.
While I'm on my high horse, I particularly hate posters writing the slang word
"yeah" when yes is correct and a shorter word.
Lastly, most infuriating of all, is "of" instead of "have". Not Yankee just pure blinking ignorance.

How did we get on to this? I'll get my coat..

[old one eye]

The Americanization of English really gets on my wick.

They should know that the word "ass" correctly refers to a donkey. Which makes a comment
like "look at the donkey on that" seem pretty stupid.
I also hate the ingress of the word GUY. It is almost impossible to have a conversation
with a rugby player or pundit without them referring to the "GUYS".
I know I'm knocking on a bit but we always used words like chaps, blokes, fellows,etc.
Guys was strictly an American term. Strangely, they didn't adopt the female term "Dolls" to go with it.
While I'm on my high horse, I particularly hate posters writing the slang word
"yeah" when yes is correct and a shorter word.
Lastly, most infuriating of all, is "of" instead of "have". Not Yankee just pure blinking ignorance.

How did we get on to this? I'll get my coat..

I refer to my previous post

[Pellsey]

The Americanization of English really gets on my wick.

They should know that the word "ass" correctly refers to a donkey. Which makes a comment
like "look at the donkey on that" seem pretty stupid.
I also hate the ingress of the word GUY. It is almost impossible to have a conversation
with a rugby player or pundit without them referring to the "GUYS".
I know I'm knocking on a bit but we always used words like chaps, blokes, fellows,etc.
Guys was strictly an American term. Strangely, they didn't adopt the female term "Dolls" to go with it.
While I'm on my high horse, I particularly hate posters writing the slang word
"yeah" when yes is correct and a shorter word.
Lastly, most infuriating of all, is "of" instead of "have". Not Yankee just pure blinking ignorance.

How did we get on to this? I'll get my coat..

I completely agree.