arickett wrote:You still dont get it prl are set up for no European rugby next year. You had 3 years to talk about a fair solution. It now sign up or tough. You have folded on every point but the main one anyway.
As a point of information, how will the funding shortfall from no European rugby be made up?
There is no funding shortfall.
The (additional) BT revenue exceeds that which PRL got from ERC
Two recent reports, one by Guscott another by Dean Richards both mention ongoing talks and a likely outcome, seems the suits are finally getting their act together. Richards seems to be confident that a good outcome is in the offing, who knows eh?
"If you want entertainment, go to the theatre," says Edinburgh head coach Richard Cockerill. "Rugby players play the game to win.15/1/21.
Bill beat me the the reply, what some may not know is that if a english team got the the semi or final they could lose money on the competition ad you can see in the tigers accounts for the year's involved
arickett wrote:Bill beat me the the reply, what some may not know is that if a english team got the the semi or final they could lose money on the competition ad you can see in the tigers accounts for the year's involved
That's funny, we got a fortune for getting to the final in 2012.
How much extra from BT?
When were these details made public?
I thought the BT deal was cloaked in secrecy.
arickett wrote:Bill beat me the the reply, what some may not know is that if a english team got the the semi or final they could lose money on the competition ad you can see in the tigers accounts for the year's involved
That's funny, we got a fortune for getting to the final in 2012.
How much extra from BT?
When were these details made public?
I thought the BT deal was cloaked in secrecy.
Ah! You begin to gain insight into PRL's dissatisfaction with ERC.
Whilst full details of the BT deal have not, insofar as I am aware, been published, Peter Tom and Peter Wheeler have kept Tigers supportors well briefed in the Programme notes.
The old sky and espn deal was 52 million over 3 years or 17.3 million for one year the cup adds 4 million make total of 21.3 million per year
When the BT deal was announced it was said that the deal was approximately 50% more than the current deal. So about 24 million allowing for somr hype which matches the figure bill is talking about.
The IRB will on Monday begin its campaign to save the European Cup next season as a six-nation tournament. Its chairman, Bernard Lapasset, and chief executive, Brett Gosper, will meet leading officials from the English and French unions to discuss the impasse which is threatening the stability of the game.
The 12 Premiership clubs and the four Welsh regions will, on 1 February, launch plans for an Anglo-Welsh league next season, ready to go to court if there is no agreement for a six-nation European Cup, and one that does not involve the current organisers of the Heineken Cup, European Rugby Cup Ltd.
The IRB would like to see a return to an 22 October proposal for a six-nation tournament run by the Six Nations committee which looked to have found common agreement, although a bid to give the clubs commercial control was not settled. The chairman of the French Rugby Federation, Pierre Camou, complicated the matter by insisting it be linked to reform of the way the game in Europe is administered.
Camou then proposed the Heineken Cup continues under ERC for one more season, without the English, something the Welsh and Irish unions support, but the IRB does not. Even if Camou can be talked round, Wales and Ireland, two countries who led the opposition to Lapasset being re-elected IRB chairman in 2011, will take more convincing.
The IRB will on Monday begin its campaign to save the European Cup next season as a six-nation tournament. Its chairman, Bernard Lapasset, and chief executive, Brett Gosper, will meet leading officials from the English and French unions to discuss the impasse which is threatening the stability of the game.
The 12 Premiership clubs and the four Welsh regions will, on 1 February, launch plans for an Anglo-Welsh league next season, ready to go to court if there is no agreement for a six-nation European Cup, and one that does not involve the current organisers of the Heineken Cup, European Rugby Cup Ltd.
The IRB would like to see a return to an 22 October proposal for a six-nation tournament run by the Six Nations committee which looked to have found common agreement, although a bid to give the clubs commercial control was not settled. The chairman of the French Rugby Federation, Pierre Camou, complicated the matter by insisting it be linked to reform of the way the game in Europe is administered.
Camou then proposed the Heineken Cup continues under ERC for one more season, without the English, something the Welsh and Irish unions support, but the IRB does not. Even if Camou can be talked round, Wales and Ireland, two countries who led the opposition to Lapasset being re-elected IRB chairman in 2011, will take more convincing.
Round up all the horses and let the trading begin.
So, if the Italians leave the Rabo and set up a domestic league, then seeing as we're talking equal representation from leagues, does that mean we move to a 24 team euro tournament with 6 from each or reduce the numbers in a 20 team tournament to 5 from each league
biffer wrote:So, if the Italians leave the Rabo and set up a domestic league, then seeing as we're talking equal representation from leagues, does that mean we move to a 24 team euro tournament with 6 from each or reduce the numbers in a 20 team tournament to 5 from each league
Tis the season to complain. The Italians will not leave the Pro12.
Since the Italians are forking out a fortune to the Rabo for the privilege of playing, paying the expenses of other regions etc, it may well be the time for them to walk.
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