Agree about Toby's pathetic go at Scully that pass as some of his others was woeful and Toby knew it but chose to vent his spleen at poor Scully who just happened to be our best back on the pitch. By the way who is the current backs coach? even given the ridiculous injury list the majority could neither pass nor catch last night. 5 points was certainly a fantastic result I worry when our luck will run out because apart from the forwards at this stage of the season we are still not firing on all cylinders.Grimlish wrote:, what does this tell you about the state of cohesion (and possibly the coaching) of our backs just now?
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Seemed more an organisational and mentality issue to me. Backs played like strangers with little structure. Hepetema clearly didn't fully know the systems. As has been said, we didn't earn the right to go wide but we did it anyway. Too often we went the wrong way, or we simply didn't have the men set and ready to receive the ball. Confusion of who to pass to. Greasy ball. These players don't just become poor players overnight, but our approach was wrong.
Not the best home debut for Hepetema, but he clearly has some talent. Hopefully he will get a chance to grow into it.
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I'll happily take the points, we have a scratch team of backs and forwards playing out of position, sitting nicely and as someone else said, the fixture list gives a bit of help, still confident we can get through this pool ok.
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The Ulster result may help?tigerburnie wrote:I'll happily take the points, we have a scratch team of backs and forwards playing out of position, sitting nicely and as someone else said, the fixture list gives a bit of help, still confident we can get through this pool ok.
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Yes I've noticed quite a few times that Flood has a tendency to too readily blame others if a move goes wrong. Not a good characteristic IMO.sapajo wrote:Agree about Toby's pathetic go at Scully that pass as some of his others was woeful and Toby knew it but chose to vent his spleen at poor Scully who just happened to be our best back on the pitch. By the way who is the current backs coach? even given the ridiculous injury list the majority could neither pass nor catch last night. 5 points was certainly a fantastic result I worry when our luck will run out because apart from the forwards at this stage of the season we are still not firing on all cylinders.Grimlish wrote:, what does this tell you about the state of cohesion (and possibly the coaching) of our backs just now?
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The No 10 is supposed to control the backline and both YBY and Flood are well off the pace.. They both need a rest which they 'aint' going to get....
Hopefully Mele and Williams will be what the Doctor ordered...
Hopefully Mele and Williams will be what the Doctor ordered...
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fortysix wrote:The No 10 is supposed to control the backline and both YBY and Flood are well off the pace.. They both need a rest which they 'aint' going to get....
Hopefully Mele and Williams will be what the Doctor ordered...
Why does Flood need a rest? He has the whole summer off and also a few weeks during this season?
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its a polite way of saying he needs dropping, either way he isn't really keeping his place on merit so farTigerbeat wrote:fortysix wrote:The No 10 is supposed to control the backline and both YBY and Flood are well off the pace.. They both need a rest which they 'aint' going to get....
Hopefully Mele and Williams will be what the Doctor ordered...
Why does Flood need a rest? He has the whole summer off and also a few weeks during this season?
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Whilst I would welcome Williams getting more game time to suggest that Flood needs dropping seems to me somewhat extreme!Jimmy Skitz wrote:its a polite way of saying he needs dropping, either way he isn't really keeping his place on merit so farTigerbeat wrote:fortysix wrote:The No 10 is supposed to control the backline and both YBY and Flood are well off the pace.. They both need a rest which they 'aint' going to get....
Hopefully Mele and Williams will be what the Doctor ordered...
Why does Flood need a rest? He has the whole summer off and also a few weeks during this season?
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My view is this.
While Toby and Ben are not playing their best Rugby they are experienced playing for Tigers and with our forwards. While we are starting with several very new combinations in the backs it was probably judged safer to stick with reliable hands in the three quarters. I believe the starting line up from 15 to 11 had only 15 minutes game time together.
Mele and Williams may well have brought their own great attributes to the game, but we may also have had a bunch of individuals confusing each other.
Actually the play looked very much like that anyway; great running, poor linking and some gruesome handling.
These last two results are better than the last two against the same opposition (away at Ravenhill, home with Treviso) and while we want better we can also confidently expect better as the season matures.
While Toby and Ben are not playing their best Rugby they are experienced playing for Tigers and with our forwards. While we are starting with several very new combinations in the backs it was probably judged safer to stick with reliable hands in the three quarters. I believe the starting line up from 15 to 11 had only 15 minutes game time together.
Mele and Williams may well have brought their own great attributes to the game, but we may also have had a bunch of individuals confusing each other.
Actually the play looked very much like that anyway; great running, poor linking and some gruesome handling.
These last two results are better than the last two against the same opposition (away at Ravenhill, home with Treviso) and while we want better we can also confidently expect better as the season matures.
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maybe so but were he not captain I doubt Williams would have stayed sat on the pine Friday nightBill W (2) wrote:Whilst I would welcome Williams getting more game time to suggest that Flood needs dropping seems to me somewhat extreme!
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Jimmy Skitz wrote:maybe so but were he not captain I doubt Williams would have stayed sat on the pine Friday nightBill W (2) wrote:Whilst I would welcome Williams getting more game time to suggest that Flood needs dropping seems to me somewhat extreme!
Maybe so. Who made the call?
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I have my doubts that Burke, not being the DOR, would have the guts to make that call, where as Cockers wouldBill W (2) wrote:Jimmy Skitz wrote:maybe so but were he not captain I doubt Williams would have stayed sat on the pine Friday nightBill W (2) wrote:Whilst I would welcome Williams getting more game time to suggest that Flood needs dropping seems to me somewhat extreme!
Maybe so. Who made the call?
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I have my doubts that Burke, not being the DOR, would have the guts to make that call, where as Cockers would[/quote]Jimmy Skitz wrote:
Maybe so. Who made the call?
Cockers will have been speaking to Burke. Cockers made the call!
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but Cockers was banned, I hope you can back that accusation upBill W (2) wrote: Cockers will have been speaking to Burke. Cockers made the call!