NFL blockng - becoming an epidemic?

[jgriffin]

I did include us in the Hall of Infamy - we are not as bad as many, but we still do the occasional 'haven't moved an inch, sir'.

[Bill W (2)]

That great referee C.Norling Esq coined the phrase "If you are on the floor you are out of the game!" Alas many of todays referees have either not heard of him or disagree with him.

Similarly, one could say "If you are in front oif the ball carrier (other than in a maul" you are out of the game."

It does not IMHO require 5 referees to adjudicate this - one with a whistle , two assistants and a TMO should be more than enough - alas the problem would appear to be "interpretation" of what are, in fact, quite simple laws.

[jgriffin]

Bump - several vintage examples of blocking by Walker today, just a couple of metres ahead of the runner but just enough to block tacklers while seeming to have over-run.

Have the Laws been suspended BTW
1 in through the gate is legal, otherwise not. Why not penalise Hopper, Robson etc?
2 ball at the back of a ruck that is not controlled by a foot and is beyond the trailing foot is out. Then why penalise attempts to play it?
3 offside is offside!

[Bill W (2)]

Bump - several vintage examples of blocking by Walker today, just a couple of metres ahead of the runner but just enough to block tacklers while seeming to have over-run.

Have the Laws been suspended BTW
1 in through the gate is legal, otherwise not. Why not penalise Hopper, Robson etc?
2 ball at the back of a ruck that is not controlled by a foot and is beyond the trailing foot is out. Then why penalise attempts to play it?
3 offside is offside!

Concur

Referees are rewritting the laws of the game.

[APJones]

Bump - several vintage examples of blocking by Walker today, just a couple of metres ahead of the runner but just enough to block tacklers while seeming to have over-run.

Have the Laws been suspended BTW
1 in through the gate is legal, otherwise not. Why not penalise Hopper, Robson etc?
2 ball at the back of a ruck that is not controlled by a foot and is beyond the trailing foot is out. Then why penalise attempts to play it?
3 offside is offside!

Concur

Referees are rewriting the laws of the game.

And when is a not straight throw in at line out perfectly OK when the Quins do one of course !

[The Boy Dave]

Blocking has been going on forever in rugby but unfortunately the introduction of the yellow card has thwarted the attempt's of players to self police the issue with a short sharp bang in the direction of the offender.
No different to players lying on the wrong side or hands in on the floor at ruck time IMO when the bottom of an opponent's boot did the trick.
Can't do anything now but rely on the referee's consistency!

[Tiger_in_Birmingham]

Blocking has been going on forever in rugby but unfortunately the introduction of the yellow card has thwarted the attempt's of players to self police the issue with a short sharp bang in the direction of the offender.

That's where the body check needs to come in - run in a straight line towards the ball carrier - if there is someone between you and him knock them out of the way.

If the referee tries to call you on it point out said straight line and that the player must have been in an illegal position.

[jgriffin]

Unfortunately I suspect a yellow may result or at least a pen.

[Tiger_in_Birmingham]

Unfortunately I suspect a yellow may result or at least a pen.

if you're taking a straight line to the ball carrier it can't be

[jgriffin]

Unfortunately I suspect a yellow may result or at least a pen.

if you're taking a straight line to the ball carrier it can't be

My point is/was that the Laws and commonsense at times seem to be absent.

[Jimmy Skitz]

another thing that's becoming an epidemic is player commando rolling after being tackled 2 or 3 times

[Bill W (2)]

Unfortunately I suspect a yellow may result or at least a pen.

if you're taking a straight line to the ball carrier it can't be

My point is/was that the Laws and commonsense at times seem to be absent.

Only to referees!! You and I both have a list!!

All referees will occasionally make mistakes. That's OK they are human.

But IMHO Unions and IRB need to get to grips with the many refs who are failing to apply the "Laws of the Game" in favour of what they think the laws should be.

[cidermark]

To be fair to some very good referees, it really can't be easy! ( ok, I've got my hard hat on ) on the one hand they are told to be rigid with certain laws - i.e. scrum put-ins (this year) - use their own judgement for other laws - i.e. when 'advantage' is over - and on the other hand they are told to keep the game flowing, advise the players but don't teach them, keep an eye on everyone on the pitch and the ball

I'm not a referee and neither, I suspect, are most of the posters on this forum. The one advantage we do have over referees is that we don't have to run around the pitch keeping 30 players, several coaches, directors, investors, etc. and (in our case) 24,000 supporters happy!

To quote Abraham Lincoln

You can please some of the people some of the time all of the people some of the time some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time.

[beech]

Whilst not trying to excuse Tigers appalling performance at Wasps there were a number of blatant blocking moves which went without punishment. It appears that referees can now pick and choose which laws to enforce.

[jgriffin]

It's not just Tigers matches I'm complaining about -it even happens at Twickenham
There are blatant examples from the better teams in the AP, we do a bit but not as bad as most. Farrell when he plays at 12 is a 8u66er for it.